Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

[Jack Burton]

Short term pain. Medium term pain. long term pain. Can't tell the difference anymore

[shawny]

Totally agree, we need a couple of experienced bigger midfield bodies to help Cripps, Setterfield is a newbie kid learning the game and Kennedy has been injury prone.
and while he has been in the system a while is still finding his feet as a regular senior player.

Maybe more than small forwards we need a Marlion Pickett and Jye Bolton in the mid season draft who can help Cripps and give us some cover while Setterfield and Kennedy establish themselves.

‘while Kennedy and Settlefield establish themself’ or IF they establish themself.

This is a major part of our problem EB, we count players in well before they have shown anything. We just assume every early pick turns into a player. They don’t.

Neither has shown anything other then their draft position to suggest they will make it.

One has played 5 games the other seems to have commitment issues played 20 or so and looks very slow. Not exactly great signs to lock them in imo.

If we got a Newman type of player in each area of the ground (defence, mids and attack) over the last 3 years we would be miles ahead of where we are. Did we look hard enough ?

Too many kids without support is not the way to rebuild imo.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Kennedy has been playing 2s
E Curnow on a flank

Bolton prefers the bigger bodies of Fisher, SPS and Dow

Jack did ok in the third when in the middle

The coach is wasting valuable development time

Maybe Shorten could give him a new plan

Kennedy needs time like Setterfield both still learning...Jye Bolton and Marlion Pickett are mature footballers.
If Ed isnt tagging he doesnt impact enough for mine, we really need a Tim Kelly who can step straight in, get 25 plus possies a game and draw some heat off Cripps but quality like that
as a freebie doesnt  come around that often so you have to go with whats available.
We dont need more 75kg kids at the mid season draft.....

[JonDorotich]

Totally agree, we need a couple of experienced bigger midfield bodies to help Cripps, Setterfield is a newbie kid learning the game and Kennedy has been injury prone.
and while he has been in the system a while is still finding his feet as a regular senior player.

Maybe more than small forwards we need a Marlion Pickett and Jye Bolton in the mid season draft who can help Cripps and give us some cover while Setterfield and Kennedy establish themselves.

Marlion pickett is a no brainer but it's going to be difficult to bring in Kennedy after he's missed a couple of weeks (?) of footy.

Kreuzer was pretty average today and didn't protect our players against Mumford nor offer anything around the ground & both Curnow's decision making is appalling - they can be exciting, but they make a lot of mistakes.

Murphy wouldn't have made one iota of difference and the harsh reality for all of us is that Ed Curnow, Gibbons, Macreadie, LOB, Stocker, Silvagni, Casboult, Thomas & arguably Setterfield wouldn't be playing in many of the top 8 senior sides.

Cunningham, Simpson will help next week and I'd also consider Lang for some run.

[31Tommys_barber]

Maybe time to start to pick teams more on merit instead of
“Getting games into them”
Example our key defender is injured so instead of bringing in Goddard a key defender playing well in the two’s we try to turn a ruckman into chb WTF, O’Brien hasn’t had a kick in the two’s let alone the ones gets a game Schumacher who has been playing well gets left out!  Ed curnow is a tagger no more no less hey let’s try and turn him into Eddie betts, Charlie superstar can’t get a touch let alone dominate but Kerr who has been consistent can’t get a run, Kennedy must have run over the coaches dog as a bloke of his ability not being picked is a joke.
It’s round 9 one win after two wins last year think I have bought my last membership after nearly 51 years just don’t have the stomach to remain positive I’ve tried but have almost lost interest completely

[Lods]

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-0...TtVjbVebnk

[JonDorotich]

Maybe time to start to pick teams more on merit instead of
“Getting games into them”
Example our key defender is injured so instead of bringing in Goddard a key defender playing well in the two’s we try to turn a ruckman into chb WTF, O’Brien hasn’t had a kick in the two’s let alone the ones gets a game Schumacher who has been playing well gets left out!  Ed curnow is a tagger no more no less hey let’s try and turn him into Eddie betts, Charlie superstar can’t get a touch let alone dominate but Kerr who has been consistent can’t get a run, Kennedy must have run over the coaches dog as a bloke of his ability not being picked is a joke.
It’s round 9 one win after two wins last year think I have bought my last membership after nearly 51 years just don’t have the stomach to remain positive I’ve tried but have almost lost interest completely

We all feel your pain & it was hard to watch

[shawny]

Maybe time to start to pick teams more on merit instead of
“Getting games into them”
Example our key defender is injured so instead of bringing in Goddard a key defender playing well in the two’s we try to turn a ruckman into chb WTF, O’Brien hasn’t had a kick in the two’s let alone the ones gets a game Schumacher who has been playing well gets left out!  Ed curnow is a tagger no more no less hey let’s try and turn him into Eddie betts, Charlie superstar can’t get a touch let alone dominate but Kerr who has been consistent can’t get a run, Kennedy must have run over the coaches dog as a bloke of his ability not being picked is a joke.
It’s round 9 one win after two wins last year think I have bought my last membership after nearly 51 years just don’t have the stomach to remain positive I’ve tried but have almost lost interest completely

Great post.

I do believe its vital we keep playing the ones that we are almost certain will make it but the kids are a different story - they should be played on form majority of the time.

Does look like many of our kids are too comfortable and know Bolton has their back.

Didn’t Bolton say get comfortable with being uncomfortable. Not sure our kids were listening when this was said.

[Baggers]

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-0...TtVjbVebnk

So BB asks we not treat this game in isolation but rather look at the body of our work over 9 games. Okay. We've won 1 game.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Marlion pickett is a no brainer but it's going to be difficult to bring in Kennedy after he's missed a couple of weeks (?) of footy.

Kreuzer was pretty average today and didn't protect our players against Mumford nor offer anything around the ground & both Curnow's decision making is appalling - they can be exciting, but they make a lot of mistakes.

Murphy wouldn't have made one iota of difference and the harsh reality for all of us is that Ed Curnow, Gibbons, Macreadie, LOB, Stocker, Silvagni, Casboult, Thomas & arguably Setterfield wouldn't be playing in many of the top 8 senior sides.

Cunningham, Simpson will help next week and I'd also consider Lang for some run.

Hopefully Jones back too as you need effort players and he gives you that, Kerr would also be a cert for me and Casboult out..McGovern can play down back in Plowmans role and
intercept like his brother and maybe play on Membrey who has become a decent player for the Saints...
Lang is 50/50 for me...still not sold on him but he does kick straight when he gets near goal and maybe Gibbons needs a rest too...unsighted today.
Macreadie and Obrien need NB's time too...I'd keep Stocker in the team as well as Jack, not great today but didnt give up.