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[Baggers]

Can't believe anyone would advocate for Murph to be traded... There is still plenty of good footy in Murph and he's an important/committed BlueBagger. Yes, some of his disposals have been wayward of late, but his influence on field is still overwhelmingly positive. As the Skipper going forward? Well that's another discussion.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I'm not a fan of shipping off our Captain and loyal servant because he "isn't the player he was". Like it or not, Murph is considered as a leader by those who count. Whatever we think matters not.

Hawks moved Hodge and Lewis on because they wanted to rebuild with Mitchell and Omeara.....Gibbs wanted out for money and finals, its the way of footy now that players move around more and even loyal servants end up at different clubs for different reasons.
Cripps is now the unofficial anointed leader IMO......I'd rather we move on gracefully from the Kruezer, Gibbs, Murphy era and have other players taking on their responsibilities, if that means suggesting they move on like Hodge, Lewis then fine, if it means them stepping back and giving more games/time to kids then thats fine with me too.....they can be around to assist but I'd rather a kid like Polson play more than Murphy for the rest of the season given the year is over for us apart from development.
Play more seniors when its a more winnable game but vs teams like the Crows at home it would be Murphy out, Polson in for example....

[ElwoodBlues1]

Can't believe anyone would advocate for Murph to be traded... There is still plenty of good footy in Murph and he's an important/committed BlueBagger. Yes, some of his disposals have been wayward of late, but his influence on field is still overwhelmingly positive. As the Skipper going forward? Well that's another discussion.

Turns the ball over a lot IMO, a lot of his kicks are short with plenty of elevation, as I said in my last post I would manage him but give kids preference...ie Brisbane he plays to help win the game but vs the Crows he rests, ditto Kruezer.....Simpson to 300 then he retires....
This era with these older players has come to an end, we have to let it go and them with it......

[Baggers]

Hawks moved Hodge and Lewis on because they wanted to rebuild with Mitchell and Omeara.....Gibbs wanted out for money and finals, its the way of footy now that players move around more and even loyal servants end up at different clubs for different reasons.
Cripps is now the unofficial anointed leader IMO......I'd rather we move on gracefully from the Kruezer, Gibbs, Murphy era and have other players taking on their responsibilities, if that means suggesting they move on like Hodge, Lewis then fine, if it means them stepping back and giving more games/time to kids then thats fine with me too.....they can be around to assist but I'd rather a kid like Polson play more than Murphy for the rest of the season given the year is over for us apart from development.
Play more seniors when its a more winnable game but vs teams like the Crows at home it would be Murphy out, Polson in for example....

I suspect Kreuz and Murph are one club players and want to stay. Plus, neither would have much currency whereas Gibbs had plenty of currency. Plus Kreuz is very managed and his body is unlikely to allow too many more seasons.

[Gointocarlton]

Hawks moved Hodge and Lewis on because they wanted to rebuild with Mitchell and Omeara.....Gibbs wanted out for money and finals, its the way of footy now that players move around more and even loyal servants
end up at different clubs for different reasons.
Cripps is now the unofficial anointed leader IMO......I'd rather we move on gracefully from the Kruezer, Gibbs, Murphy era and have other players taking on their responsibilities, if that means suggesting they move on like Hodge, Lewis then fine, if it means them stepping back and giving more games/time to kids then thats fine with me too.....they can be around to assist but I'd rather a kid like Polson play more than Murphy for the rest of the season given the year is over for us apart from development.
Play more seniors when its a more winnable game but vs teams like the Crows at home it would be Murphy out, Polson in for example....

Hodge was on one leg at retired, then was coaxed out of retirement by Fagan. Not comparable to Murph. There are other boat anchors we can get rid of create space ahead of Murph. Gibbs was another story, wanted to go home to mummy and daddy and get an armchair ride into finals, strong character is Bryce. I am fully aware of how footy is now, I just dont agree with getting rid of your skipper.

[Gointocarlton]

Turns the ball over a lot IMO, a lot of his kicks are short with plenty of elevation, as I said in my last post I would manage him but give kids preference...ie Brisbane he plays to help win the game but vs the Crows he rests, ditto Kruezer.....Simpson to 300 then he retires....
This era with these older players has come to an end, we have to let it go and them with it......

He's had a foot injury.

[ElwoodBlues1]

He's had a foot injury.

Not sure why he has been played then?, we seem to like playing injured players ie Kennedy, Marchbank.....and Thomas initially.....

[Gointocarlton]

Not sure why he has been played then?, we seem to like playing injured players ie Kennedy, Marchbank.....and Thomas initially.....

Cupboard is bare and not infinite. We have been ravaged by injury this year, cant play all kids. If we did and lost, we'd call for the coaches head, board to be sacked and brand said injured players soft for not playing through injury. The reality is, all teams have players with niggles throughout the year. Some we know about, some we don't. In Murphs case, it perhaps explains his alleged below std disposal (I haven't noticed it TBH).

[Jack Burton]

Hawks moved Hodge and Lewis on because they wanted to rebuild with Mitchell and Omeara.....Gibbs wanted out for money and finals, its the way of footy now that players move around more and even loyal servants end up at different clubs for different reasons.
Cripps is now the unofficial anointed leader IMO......I'd rather we move on gracefully from the Kruezer, Gibbs, Murphy era and have other players taking on their responsibilities, if that means suggesting they move on like Hodge, Lewis then fine, if it means them stepping back and giving more games/time to kids then thats fine with me too.....they can be around to assist but I'd rather a kid like Polson play more than Murphy for the rest of the season given the year is over for us apart from development.
Play more seniors when its a more winnable game but vs teams like the Crows at home it would be Murphy out, Polson in for example....

You are aware of what Hawthorn got in return for Lewis and Hodge? We would be crazy to give away our reigning B&F for nothing. You're not making much sense here

[ElwoodBlues1]

You are aware of what Hawthorn got in return for Lewis and Hodge? We would be crazy to give away our reigning B&F for nothing. You're not making much sense here

Reigning B&F doesnt mean much in a bottom club, yep I am fully aware of what Hawthorn got for those two and S. Mitchell...nada....moving them on was about rebuilding the midfield with T.Mitchell and OMeara not worrying about the returns for Hodge and Lewis.
Sure I said I would like decent return for Murphy and be reluctant to move him on without good compo but the more I think about it and what Hawthorn did maybe you just have to accept the AFL compo pick what ever it is and stick to your plans like the Hawks did....they obviously had T. Mitchell lined up 12 months earlier and also must have been very sure that they could get Omeara over the line too...