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(05-08-2018, 10:56 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Relieve Murph of the Captaincy and watch him blossom!

Hopefully the bloke is a Blue for life....

Whilst I agree his kicking isn't what it used to be I do believe that's a mental/pressure thing...

At his best, or near it, Murph was sublime.

Hopefully again.

He peaked 7 years ago.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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He peaked 7 years ago? He won the B&F last year! I think they want Murphy to be the player who has the ball in his hand when they enter the F50. Because of injuries he hasn't been able to play that role. We have seen what losing a player like Gibbs does to the side, losing Murphy would be a bigger loss.
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I want Murph playing the free wheeling outside role that won him the best player awards (coaches) and AA in 2011. He is not an inside mid but people want to play inside and get smashed and be a Luke Hodge. He is a Hodge or a Cripps. Get him on the outside, use skill to get inside 50 to a target or have shot. Leave the grunt work to the specialists and get him playing on the outside and watch him flourish again.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(05-08-2018, 11:26 PM)Blue Moon link Wrote:He peaked 7 years ago? He won the B&F last year! I think they want Murphy to be the player who has the ball in his hand when they enter the F50. Because of injuries he hasn't been able to play that role. We have seen what losing a player like Gibbs does to the side, losing Murphy would be a bigger loss.

BM, mbb is right. 2011 was definitely Murph's best year. Which isn't to say that he's been crap since. Far from it. He's been a good player for us his whole career, but he hasn't returned to the lofty heights of 2011. That much is accurate IMO.


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(05-08-2018, 11:35 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I want Murph playing the free wheeling outside role that won him the best player awards (coaches) and AA in 2011. He is not an inside mid but people want to play inside and get smashed and be a Luke Hodge. He is a Hodge or a Cripps. Get him on the outside, use skill to get inside 50 to a target or have shot. Leave the grunt work to the specialists and get him playing on the outside and watch him flourish again.

Agree with this. Murph can be a very creative asset for us in that role, relieved of the grunt work. He isn't ideally built for that anyway. We need another couple who are to back up Cripps though and I think we should see what we could make out of Jack as a possible option this year. Nothing to lose.
Reality always wins in the end.
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I don't have much to say about Murphy aside from the following.

We have struggled badly in his absence.

We will be a much better side with him in there, than without him.  We are absolutely missing his presence, even if he doesn't have as much of an impact on games himself.

Finally, think back to the few wins we have had recently, and you find that Murphy is quite prolific in those.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(05-09-2018, 01:19 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Finally, think back to the few wins we have had recently, and you find that Murphy is quite prolific in those.

The fact Murphy haters love to overlook!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(05-08-2018, 11:08 AM)Jack Burton link Wrote:If we lose Murphy as a FA we will get sweet FA in return, maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick (see Waite and Betts examples for how the AFL view Carlton FAs). We need him playing, teaching our young mids. O'Brien has played what, 5 games? Looks OK, but needs a senior head around for the next couple of years. SPS looks disinterested, is going backwards at a rate of knots. We need Murphy at Carlton for the next 2-3 years

Any Betts compo was offset by getting Thomas in.
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(05-09-2018, 01:21 AM)LP link Wrote:The fact Murphy haters love to overlook!

LP..I'm not a Murphy hater but he isnt the player he was and his disposal/decision making isnt what it was and for both him and us I think he should move onto another club that can offer
him finals and if we can get something decent in return then I think it whats best, if we cant get a decent return then he stays...
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(05-09-2018, 08:08 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:LP..I'm not a Murphy hater but he isnt the player he was and his disposal/decision making isnt what it was and for both him and us I think he should move onto another club that can offer
him finals and if we can get something decent in return then I think it whats best, if we cant get a decent return then he stays...
I'm not a fan of shipping off our Captain and loyal servant because he "isn't the player he was". Like it or not, Murph is considered as a leader by those who count. Whatever we think matters not.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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