Rd 13: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs GC

[PaulP]

They made a bit of a deal of it on Fox Footy last night.

Curnow's tactics aren't good for the game but when "Lingy" used to do them he was a legend.

All the callers think it's hilarious when "Mummy" flattens blokes but it's undisciplined when Lyndsey Thomas does it.

When Mitchell, Hodge and Selwood all punch on it's great to see warriors going at it but when Yarran beat up Paul Chapman it was uncalled for.

These are the same commentators that called fans racist for booing Adam Goodes.

I won't comment on your last sentence, but existing hypocrisies should not be used to legitimate further hypocrisies, and should not be used to legitimate further unsavory behavior.  Hypocrisy exists - we all know that, and it's endemic to being human. There's a difference between hypocrisy and genuinely believing that two situations are different, however similar they may seem to others, but that's for another time.

As for Ling, no player is perfect, but I thought as far as taggers go, he was cleaner than most. Granted, i didn't watch every game he played, so I can't comment further.

[mateinone]

So to be clear here Paul.

Just to be sure I am understanding your position...
Do you think bumping into a player off the ball is dirty?
Do you think what we done to Ablett needs to be stamped out?

If so I think every player who has ever played the game has to be classed as dirty.
Nothing done to Ablett last week was dirty (in my opinion).
An players injury wasn't targeted, we haven't heard unsavory personal sledging.
To me it was absolutely perfectly played.

From what I can tell, the players let Ablett know he was playing a physical contest and it has happened forever and I would had to see it disappear.

God how often even at junior football would you have a bit of push and shove, shoulder bumping, chest pumping... seriously. The game must stay physical (whilst stamping out dirtiness).

[PaulP]

MIO,

no. I think that Ablett's treatment was within the rules. No, I don't think it's dirty, but personally I don't like it.

[jeza]

MIO,

no. I think that Ablett's treatment was within the rules. No, I don't think it's dirty, but personally I don't like it.

I loved it when I saw Fox Footy talking about us like this last night. Imagine being known for physically bullying other clubs when half our team are U21!

I do not recall anyone taking up this baton when it was Murphy on the receiving end.

It is a physical game and Bolton is teaching the youngsters if you're not the bully you're probably the bullied. Physical intimidation is an important part of the game.

Love it.

[PaulP]

I loved it when I saw Fox Footy talking about us like this last night. Imagine being known for physically bullying other clubs when half our team are U21!

I do not recall anyone taking up this baton when it was Murphy on the receiving end.

It is a physical game and Bolton is teaching the youngsters if you're not the bully you're probably the bullied. Physical intimidation is an important part of the game.

Love it.

I would assume your views correlate with the majority.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

Hopefully the umpires crack down on it hard and quickly for even the slightest misdemeanor.  It seems that we haven't had anyone targetted yet, however, it will happen.

MRP also has to lift its game.  We need clean, strong, tough footy, not a whole lot of cheap shots.

I hate it as well. Don't agree with what we did to Ablett at all. To condone it would make me a hypocrite of the highest order because I hated how teams did it to Judd and Diesel. If Ablett got off the hook and won the game for the Suns as he very nearly did then I'd be ok with that - means the team with the better footballer/s would have won.  This macho moose butting is just ridiculous - even U12 teams are doing it off the ball now. Just go for the ball FSS.

[shadesy]

Best part was Willo knocking him on his arse per team instructions.

Docherty says in the Journey Ep 4 "We wont be letting other clubs walk over us"

We did nothing untowards towards Ablett and stuff 10 times worse happens in Ammo's. Stop finding fault in everything.

[cookie2]

Best part was Willo knocking him on his arse per team instructions.

Docherty says in the Journey Ep 4 "We wont be letting other clubs walk over us"

We did nothing untowards towards Ablett and stuff 10 times worse happens in Ammo's. Stop finding fault in everything.

Agree. I've seen a lot worse, and perpetrated on us. The AFL is a shark pool and players know that when they step onto the field. We are at a critical and formative time and we need to show we can handle and dish out the tough stuff when needed. Ablett is a big boy.

[PaulP]

I hate it as well. Don't agree with what we did to Ablett at all. To condone it would make me a hypocrite of the highest order because I hated how teams did it to Judd and Diesel. If Ablett got off the hook and won the game for the Suns as he very nearly did then I'd be ok with that - means the team with the better footballer/s would have won.  This macho moose butting is just ridiculous - even U12 teams are doing it off the ball now. Just go for the ball FSS.

I would have to agree.

But as I said earlier, Bolton is a niggle fan, so we should expect to see plenty of this in the coming seasons.

[kruddler]

They were talking someone on the radio recently, perhaps Luke Hodge. Basically talking about players copping fines from the MRP and who pays them.

Basically if a player does something stupid off his own bat, he has to deal with the fine himself. (Think Waite)
If a player gets fined for sticking up for a teammate, even melee's, then they pass the hat around and people chip in.

It's basically expected that you stand up for your teammates, especially the kids, and clubs ensure that you are not penalised financially for doing so.

If it was indeed Hodge and the hawks, i expect Bolton has brought that rule to us as well. Perhaps thats why players are more willing to stand up for a teammate now more than ever.

Its good to see some controlled aggression.