Rd 13: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs GC

[Gointocarlton]

I loved it when I saw Fox Footy talking about us like this last night. Imagine being known for physically bullying other clubs when half our team are U21!

I do not recall anyone taking up this baton when it was Murphy on the receiving end.

It is a physical game and Bolton is teaching the youngsters if you're not the bully you're probably the bullied. Physical intimidation is an important part of the game.

Love it.

x2.

[Professer E]

Big difference between slamming people in the back Bugg style, taking out a kid with a high bump Buddy style, running past the ball to slam a player like Hodge, jumper punching and a bit of relatively  harmless grappling and close attention.

I'd rather be known as a side that goes 100% at the ball but there is a line between dirty play and niggle that I don't want to cross.  Footy is a gladiatorial sport after all.

If umpires and the MRP did their job in the first place there wouldn't be a problem .... if the AFL was serious about untoward play they'd do something about instead of kowtowing to a tin medal and a heap of corporate gambling agencies.  Can't believe how they warp every situation to protect the "integrity of the Brownlow".... what a total crock.

[malo]

I hate it as well. Don't agree with what we did to Ablett at all. To condone it would make me a hypocrite of the highest order because I hated how teams did it to Judd and Diesel. If Ablett got off the hook and won the game for the Suns as he very nearly did then I'd be ok with that - means the team with the better footballer/s would have won.  This macho moose butting is just ridiculous - even U12 teams are doing it off the ball now. Just go for the ball FSS.

Yeah, I can see your point of view.....I don't like the look of it either, and yes I hated the continual scragging of Judd (Which by the way, was usually quite a bit worse than what Ablett got on the weekend) ......but as the Umps or the AFL are doing nothing to prevent the best players in the game being targeted, then unfortunately it's a case of us either joining in, or playing the moral high ground & getting walked over.

That's the decision.

I'd rather the niggle that Ed & the lads indulged in than cheap shots that the likes of Scott Thompson practice every game.

[LP]

I'd rather be known as a side that goes 100% at the ball but there is a line between dirty play and niggle that I don't want to cross.  Footy is a gladiatorial sport after all.

Most of the Ablett niggle, like the Judd and Murphy niggle before it, comes when the ball isn't in play around a stoppage.

If players didn't have to wait for umpires and broadcasters, if they could get on with the game, there would be little opportunity to behave this way!

[ElwoodBlues1]

The aspect thats changed is that it used to be one player doing the niggle ie Ryan Crowley was the high prince of close tagging but we are now seeing half  the team trying to bang into players like Ablett.....one on one its ok IMO but on mass its probably not a great look for the game.
Its going to end in a massive brawl one day when the tagged one decides to belt the would be aggressors.....when that happens the AFL might look at it more closely...

[PaulP]

It seems to me in some way as though we've gone from one extreme to the other - I never liked it in the past when it seemed as though the local U7's girls team could bully us, and I don't like what's happening now.

My personal preference is that we develop a "don't poke the bear" reputation. That we will never instigate this behavior, but we will give it back tenfold if the opposition tries it on us. Once established, any team with even half a brain will realize it's better not to start anything, because in the finish they will come off second best.

[madbluboy]

J Brown said the other day he called Adrian Anderson himself and told him if if they didn't crack down on defenders hitting him in the back he would take matters into his own hands.

Apparently they counted 132 times he was hit in the back off the ball in one game and he felt like he had whiplash.

[BluePhantom]

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[LP]

The aspect thats change is that it used to be one player doing the niggle ie Ryan Crowley was the high prince of close tagging but now are seeing half  the team trying to bang into players like Ablett.....one on one its ok IMO but on mass its probably not a great look for the game.

Isn't that partly due to the lack of response by a team-mate?

So far in 2017 we haven't seen a lot of this happening against us, but we now have quite a few blokes who openly fly the flag instead of running away!

I'll never forgive Tuohy and Everitt for just jogging past Murphy the day the was put down in the center of the field, that was as piss-weak as it comes from Carlton players!

Its going to end in a massive brawl one day when the tagged one decides to belt the would be aggressors.....when that happens the AFL might look at it more closely...

No doubt that will be the case, the thing missing now is the spontaneous retaliation and nobody wants to see that.

[townsendcalling]

They say that for all the crap Steve Baker gave out to his targets, we would come off the ground 'blue' after playing some teams because HE got smashed so much!!