AFL Rd 22 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

[kruddler]

Pitto is a crab - if you cant defend nor kick goals as a ruckman then thats a crab.

Comparing stats when TDK spent most of his time forward is ludicrous.

Well what a well thought out and intelligent rebuttal.  :

Its a bit like asking Pittonet to kick goals when he doesn't spend much time forward?
Or complaining that he doesn't take intercept marks in a game where he took 2 to TDKs none.

Funny thing about crabs. There's an argument that nature considers it a perfect creature. Evolution keeps turning things into crabs.
There are plenty of different types of crabs throughout the world, and we can identify them immediately as crabs, but they've come through completely different evolutionary paths to get there and many are completely unrelated to eachother.
So perhaps calling Pittonet a crab is a compliment?

[pinot]

Well what a well thought out and intelligent rebuttal.  :

Its a bit like asking Pittonet to kick goals when he doesn't spend much time forward?
Or complaining that he doesn't take intercept marks in a game where he took 2 to TDKs none.

Funny thing about crabs. There's an argument that nature considers it a perfect creature. Evolution keeps turning things into crabs.
There are plenty of different types of crabs throughout the world, and we can identify them immediately as crabs, but they've come through completely different evolutionary paths to get there and many are completely unrelated to eachother.
So perhaps calling Pittonet a crab is a compliment?

May as well get games in Hudson O'Keefe if thats the case. Maybe he can defend better and kick some goals.

[LP]

The failure in analysis here continues to be the idea that one ruck or the other is the only correct answer, when it is pretty much obvious to most fans that the two are complimentary as Voss outlined in his post match presser.

I suspect in the vast majority of cases, both will be a stronger option than either in isolation.

I realise that might be sad news for some fans who have favourites, perhaps even 3rd wheels they favour that are struggling for a slot to fill, but it's AFL it's not meant to be easy and it certainly isn't fair!

[PaulP]

I also don't get the Great Ruck non debate. By current contract standards, De Koning has signed a medium term deal, and Pittonet a long term deal. The club clearly wants both, and believes they can both work together. Voss mentioned in his last press conference that Pittonet is there to "grind away", and De Koning is there to "provide energy". He was asked about De Koning (and particularly his 3rd q) and was full of praise - he referred a few of De Koning's "statement plays." He also said it takes both of them to get the job done.

[madbluboy]

I gave Pittonet a vote, he was the one that had to take on Marshall more often than not and evened up the contest after half time which helped us get back in the game after Marshall dominated early. Way under appreciated is Pittonet and I dont think we would have won without him.

Did you see how StKilda got their first goal? First Crack highlighted Pittonet's poor effort, also highlighted why Fisher is only a back up.

[WASurfer]

Is Boyd available this week after his suspension? He was in pretty good form so be interesting to see if he comes back in this week or back through the VFL.

[PaulP]

Is Boyd available this week after his suspension? He was in pretty good form so be interesting to see if he comes back in this week or back through the VFL.

Yes. Voss mentioned he will return in his presser.

[madbluboy]

Is Boyd available this week after his suspension? He was in pretty good form so be interesting to see if he comes back in this week or back through the VFL.

Straight in.

[LP]

Straight in.

Agree, he was in good form before the suspension and has had a freshen up, plus it's not just about form but about standing by players who do the hard stuff or get hard done by!

By the way, Darcy Byrne-Jones missed a week from a concussion that was probably already evident when he played on before Boyd's tackle, in hindsight it looks like Port have form in allowing blokes to play on who are otherwise questionable?

[Gointocarlton]

Did you see how StKilda got their first goal? First Crack highlighted Pittonet's poor effort, also highlighted why Fisher is only a back up.

I noted that during the game and thought it was terrible. Its not like Marshall sprinted forward, he ambled to the fwd line with Pitto giving him 2 horse leads worth of space instead of a short dog leads worth. He must do better than that, its takes no skill, just footy smarts and effort.