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AFL Rd 18 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
#41
(07-11-2023, 09:49 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Butters has gone up a level this season.  Proper gun player.

Rozee is all hype imho.  I've seen better from him this season than the past but nothing too special up until this season.
Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#42
(07-11-2023, 09:53 AM)Professer E link Wrote:I can handle losing (just) but can't stand being beaten up physically.  It's weak and this mob have lorded it over us in the past.  They think we're weak and we've never done anything about it other than crumble under pressure.
We won't get beaten up Prof. We will hunt and dish out the beating, the 23 that ran out on Sunday fear no one.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#43
(07-11-2023, 09:54 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I'd be equally happy with both. Rozee has become tougher IMO, no longer just a flashy outside player.
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#44
Congratulations to Weiters on his 150th game in the navy blue ??
Hope it's your best game to date.

Added bonus if all our 2015 draft crop play the game! At least that is looking like a successful draft.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.
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#45
Should be a good game to watch if we bring the heat.
Port will absorb it better than Freo and will come down to efficiency.
We have been very efficient past few weeks but this team is known to mentally fold in big games they have to learn sometime.
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#46
(07-11-2023, 09:54 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Rozee would have gone home and we probably would have got Fantasia as the trade. As you say Walsh everyday of the week. I think Butters will be AA and not far away from Nick Daicos on brownlow day...he is a gun.
I'd expect Port to be physical but I'd be more fearful of their leg speed and skill.
Over rated and over hyped is Allir Allir...soft and I reckon Charlie and Harry will dominate him and the dirtiest player on the ground in Jonas....remember him laying out Gaff..pure thug.
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#47
(07-11-2023, 09:54 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I wouldn't choose Rozee ahead of butters at this stage.

Walsh always was the number one pick but everyone would be happy with those draft choices with the exception of the king twins.  Those two are proper injury prone bean poles.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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#48
(07-11-2023, 10:37 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Rozee would have gone home and we probably would have got Fantasia as the trade. As you say Walsh everyday of the week. I think Butters will be AA and not far away from Nick Daicos on brownlow day...he is a gun.
I'd expect Port to be physical but I'd be more fearful of their leg speed and skill.
Over rated and over hyped is Allir Allir...soft and I reckon Charlie and Harry will dominate him and the dirtiest player on the ground in Jonas....remember him laying out Gaff..pure thug.
I think Butters is a jet and would take him in a heart beat. Do yourself a favour, have a look at Daicos's and Butters' numbers for this year. Then have a look at Cerra's and compare them to other two and tell me what you find.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#49
(07-11-2023, 12:20 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I think Butters is a jet and would take him in a heart beat. Do yourself a favour, have a look at Daicos's and Butters' numbers for this year. Then have a look at Cerra's and compare them to other two and tell me what you find.

Perhaps do us all a favour and just post the comparison.
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#50
(07-11-2023, 12:29 PM)spf link Wrote:Perhaps do us all a favour and just post the comparison.
I did a few weeks ago and posted the link and there were very similar, here is Butters and Cerra compared side by side from footywire.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p...1=S&fid2=S

Daicos v Butters

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p...1=S&fid2=S

Daicos v Cerra

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p...1=S&fid2=S

My point was weeks ago that Butters was second favourite for the Brownlow at the time and Cezz had equal or better averages statically yet he was/is no where to be seen in the market odds. Cezz has had an outstanding season and has flown under the radar somewhat.

2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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