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03-16-2023, 02:38 AM
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Not sure what they would gain from playing Graham in defence. They have Baker and Rioli back there with Broad effectively playing small and Vlastuin taking the 3rd tall or midsized forward. Their weakness is in the tall defensive area rather than rebounding or small defenders.
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I hope our blokes aren't as nervous as I am. I need the all bounced now!
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(03-16-2023, 02:37 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Remind me again the names of the coaches who gave votes to Plowman? Does it matter, it seems a bit of a straw man argument, an attempt to assert the quality of former coaches is somehow a selective assessment of a player, are you saying the Cripps, Walsh, Weitering and SMurph B&Fs were bogus because of the coaches voting for Plowman? :o
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(03-16-2023, 02:43 AM)LP link Wrote:Does it matter, it seems a bit of a straw man argument, an attempt to assert the quality of former coaches is somehow a selective assessment of a player, are you saying the Cripps and Walsh B&Fs were bogus? :o No I am not saying Cripps and Walshes B&Fs were bogus. Yes I am questioning the previous coaches' quality wrt rating
and giving Plowman votes.
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(03-16-2023, 02:50 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:No I am not saying Cripps and Walshes B&Fs were bogus. Yes I am questioning the previous coaches' quality wrt rating
and giving Plowman votes. So under what mechanism do they become reliable assessor of some player and wildly inaccurate for another?
I'll presume the only answer you can offer is "When they pick him!" ;D
It'll be interesting to see which player cops the stay at home role tonight, and how long it takes for fans to sledge them?
It's probably 50/50 to be Cowan or Newman, at which time we go Edgar Allen Poe on them, "tch tch, ........... nevermore!" :o
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Get a room boys. The Lachie Plowman Suite would be an ideal place to hammer each other to your hearts’ content.
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(03-16-2023, 03:07 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:The coaches didn't pick him in rd 1 last year or this year. Plowman only played 15 games last season, 9 wins - 6 losses, 60% win ratio.
When Plowman didn't play, 4 wins - 4 losses, 50% win ratio.
Yet some how fans seem to associate him with losses! :o
But the reality is very different from the perception, as it is for any whipping boy players, like the spud sMurph, the boat anchor Cottrell and Williams the chandelier.
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(03-15-2023, 11:32 PM)LP link Wrote:Is Ed the special case defender selected just to tag Dusty out of F50?
But looking at our team, I'd suggest we are hoping Dusty is starved of opportunity, we are setup to intercept across the HBF and not for defence at FB. I dont trust anything Hardwick says about his players and the mixture of Dusty in the middle or forward isnt set in concrete. I'd expect Newman to pick Dusty up if he plays forward and a variety of players to rotate off him in the middle.
If he is one out down forward and gets enough supply then he will kick goals...thats a given, its going to be about the work up the ground, the pressure and accountability when Richmond run their usual rebound stuff with Short, Baker, Vlastuin etc delivering the ball down forward and following up.
If I see Baker or Short running forward alone and getting easy hand off receives kicking goals then you know we are going to play the same unaccountable rubbish that sees us give up easy goals against the trend of play.
If I see those players prevented from running down field or being worn by their opponent I'll know things are going to be different and Voss has got players thinking about accountability and what they have to do when we dont have the ball and that means winning more games and a successful 2023.
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