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(06-04-2021, 11:15 PM)Lods link Wrote:It's a big unknown.
Are they really unhappy?
How are the players connecting off-field?
Are there divisions between the group...little cliques. (older v younger, possibles v probables, longer at the club v newer)
You can understand a fair bit of unhappiness around the fringes.
Some players being given games when others think it should be their spot.
How is that manifesting itself in terms of dynamics around the club.
It doesn't seem that obvious on field.
Players seem to get around one another after goals, or console others who make mistakes.
But who knows?
If such divisions exist it could be a factor in some of the inconsistent performances.
Comes back to culture, tail wagging the dog so to speak. If feel like a broken record but successful teams have players who do whatever the coaches asks without dropping the bottom lip.
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(06-04-2021, 12:14 PM)northernblue link Wrote:Too many high jumpers and shadows methinks…
Absolutely!
I would be very disappointed if Murphy wasn’t disappointed about being dropped.
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(06-05-2021, 01:14 AM)DJC link Wrote:Absolutely!
I would be very disappointed if Murphy wasn’t disappointed about being dropped.
Yes, he actually seemed quite indignant, good on him.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(06-04-2021, 12:34 PM)PaulP date Wrote:Having been on these forums for 15+ years, it's quite obvious to me that supporters are rarely in the best position to judge which players are valuable, what goes on behind the scenes etc. They have players they don't like (a position always reached by simple, objective observation 8)) , and they interpret situations accordingly.
The tell is that they never or very rarely credit certain players, even when they have outstanding games or moments, to them that player that they hate is analogous to how Carlton is to BT, Ling or Darcy!
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All I’ll say is ‘compare the pair’
Mark Murphy / Nathan Jones
Both ex captains
Both one club player through hard times
Both 300 games players (give or take!)
Both probably had chances to go elsewhere
Both no longer walk up starts in their respective teams.
Not sure Jones would react like that……
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(06-05-2021, 01:24 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Unless you don't like the player then you can call him a sook.
Ive have always liked Murph and have backed him in on most occasions when criticised by many, he sooked it up IMO, dont care what anyone says.
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2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
