VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

[Smurfy]

doh pays to  read it correctly ..

[ianh]

At least the back half resembles a team with adequate height, the front half still midget.

The problem is the Hawks have named a very tall forward line (3 x 197, 1x 193) which means apart from Delany our backs will be giving away height. Nothing we can do about that so they will just have to play tall and try and run them off the feet on the way out. Issue I have with that is that only the silver fox Brooksby (and if/when he rests forward Ceglar) are traditional ruck types the rest are athletes.

And at the other end they have 1 genuine tall Hartley at 199cm who will have a field day if we bomb it long anywhere near him. So need to lower the eyes and hit targets - not necessarily our strong suit. My thinking is go the old Bombers style "U-shape" forward line where the nominal CHF (i'd have Parsons) pushes up the ground leaving the flankers (Honey/Calazzi) to stay out wide and a space for the FF (Crocker) to lead into. Kennedy plays FP as the long bail out and Durdin to crumb at his feet. If they have Hartley fill the space at CHB then Crocker needs to lead away from there or the ball carrier has to look elsewhere - at least Kennedy is a marking threat against the rest of their backline as named. If they push Hartley back onto Kennedy then he has to lead at the ball, at least it will have dragged Hartley away from the prime intercept marking spot.

In the middle I would expect Ceglar to have his way at the stoppages, and indeed Brooksby when given Ceglar a rest. I think probably all that can be done is to give a contest, rove to their ruck and try to use Gundry's athleticism to work off Ceglar away from the stoppages. I suspect we will have our work cut out for us given the Hawks tall timber.

Go Blues2s !

[DJC]

Where is Dow?

Hamstring tightness.

[kruddler]

Good to see SPS named in the guts. Train him up there and we might still be able to use him in the 1's.

[LP]

Kemp has miles to get back, he looks slow and confused, like a player who hasn't played for a few years.

Also pretty lightweight for his size, lacks power compared to others, probably side effects or consequence of his injuries. We need to be patient and play the long term game.

[PaulP]

I don't know much about the VFL lists, form line, expectations etc., but is it fair to assume that we were expected to finish lower, and Box Hill to finish higher ? They seem to be a much better team.

[cookie2]

Good to see SPS named in the guts. Train him up there and we might still be able to use him in the 1's.

Hopefully but will need to improve the penetration of his kicking for one imo. Can kick well but seems to have an obsession with 15m dinks.

[PaulP]

Nearly 10 goals down near half time. We certainly won't be getting 3 from 3 this weekend.

[Slowhand]

No one putting their hand up so far. Headless Chooks chasing ass.

[Baggers]

That 2nd qtr is one of the worst I've seen from blokes in our colours. They ran rings around us.

Negatives: dropped marks, kick and hopes landing in opponents arms, failing to stick tackles and a real lack of footy IQ re decision making. Absolutely shallacked out of the centre... sheesh, it was like a training drill for the Dawks out of the centre - goal after goal. Gave our defenders absolutely no chance.

Disappointing players: SPS, Ramsay, Newnes, Carroll and a few of the VFL listed boys. I'm not going to mention any of the defenders because no-one could defend the ease at which the ball was coming into the Dawks forward line. Kennedy battled hard, but...

We lost Durdin before the game started with a hammy issue. And we really missed the VFL boys Radovanovic and Wooller who are both out injured.

Positives - possibly grasping at straws! Honey early, Willo, Parks (though some terrible errors), Kemp got into the tempo the further the game went and his disposal by foot was a treat, Crocker working his @rse off.

Bottom line is that it looked like a bunch of kids against men who knew how to play the game.

And our lack of height was really telling also.

Lucky to be only 10 gls down... could easily have been much more such was the ease at which the Dawks were sharing it about and kicking goals.