Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

[PaulP]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-new...7a211e0027

They certainly raise some valid points, but the thing that got me ? "Teague fatigue." lol

[LP]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-new...7a211e0027

They certainly raise some valid points, but the thing that got me ? "Teague fatigue." lol

King is talking from his experience, from his old days, it is almost a different game from just 2 years ago!

I'm not sure we yet have the measure of what scoring is normal under the 2021 rules, we could well see clubs kicking 150pts before season is out!

Two years ago they all complained, loudly and non-stop, how boring footy had become, the scoring problem, now they are calling for scoring restriction tactics, the over-scoring problem.

Maybe there isn't a weathervane on earth that turns as fast as an AFL specialist commentators does. Maybe what King is better at than anything else is reading fan sentiment, not unlike Kane Cornes! They might well be fully-fledge members of AFLanon!

Am I being unfair?

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[tonyo]

King is talking from his experience, from his old days, it is almost a different game from just 2 years ago!

I'm not sure we yet have the measure of what scoring is normal under the 2021 rules, we could well see clubs kicking 150pts before season is out!

Two years ago they all complained, loudly and non-stop, how boring footy had become, the scoring problem, now they are calling for scoring restriction tactics, the over-scoring problem.

Maybe there isn't a weathervane on earth that turns as fast as an AFL specialist commentators does. Maybe what King is better at than anything else is reading fan sentiment, not unlike Kane Cornes! They might well be fully-fledge members of AFLanon!

Am I being unfair?

One thing for certain, you have to score more than the opposition to win games.  If the tide is turning towards higher scores, mostly kicked by forwards, it's better that we get that right. 

I have a dream of a forward line with Curnow/McKay kicking 3-4 each, McGovern presenting up higher and feeding Fisher/Martin/Gibbons who all chip in with their share.  It's a big dream I know, but at least the building blocks are kind of there (crosses fingers).

Then we may be back to the Tommy Hafey theory - the opposition may kick 13 or 14 goals, but we kick 19 or 20 and win every time.  Makes for a better game of footy to watch as well.

Well, I'm allowed to dream, aren't I?

[PaulP]

There might not be much in it, but I think King is somewhat better than Cornes. Once you strip away the made-for-fans bluster and antics, his point that we need to make some structural changes to our defence is both obvious and reasonable. I could personally live without watching or hearing someone impersonating an angry fan, but that's just me.

[Thryleon]

Leigh matthews once stated.

First to 16 wins the game.

I dont see that changing anytime soon, and now that I've posted this watch our games and see what happens.

Its a psychological barrier.  Teams kick 16 goals and either they win it in a canter or the opposition sneak their way back in and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat because complacency sets in.

I'll stick to that, and let the pundits state their bollocks.

[madbluboy]

There might not be much in it, but I think King is somewhat better than Cornes. Once you strip away the made-for-fans bluster and antics, his point that we need to make some structural changes to our defence is both obvious and reasonable. I could personally live without watching or hearing someone impersonating an angry fan, but that's just me.

King is the best special comments/ analyst in the caper. Like everyone he gets things wrong but he gets a lot right, he doesn't show any bias if anything he is harder on his own club.
He called the Dangerfield hit for what it was when everyone else said it was an accident.

[PaulP]

King is the best special comments/ analyst in the caper. Like everyone he gets things wrong but he gets a lot right, he doesn't show any bias if anything he is harder on his own club.
He called the Dangerfield hit for what it was when everyone else said it was an accident.

I don't have Foxtel, so whatever exposure I have to King is from video snippets or articles in the free press. My issue is with the form rather than the content. If he delivered his thoughts without the theatrical die-hard-Cartlon-fan carry-on, it would be a lot better IMO. Listening to him at times, he sounds like folks on here after a bad loss. I don't know whether my tastes are eccentric or pernickety, but him and many others are insufferable far too often. My personal preference is for someone like Daniel Hoyne. He's not a commentator, but I like the way he just presents the data and leaves the histrionics behind :

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/p...hare-tools

[LP]

King is the best special comments/ analyst in the caper. Like everyone he gets things wrong but he gets a lot right, he doesn't show any bias if anything he is harder on his own club.
He called the Dangerfield hit for what it was when everyone else said it was an accident.

Do doubt, but that doesn't mean he is immune to flipping opinion and it doesn't make him immune to hypocrisy.

King was one of the AFLs loudest critics of low scoring and poor game spectacles, now the game style is basically what he asked for and he's telling us it's no good!

[Baggers]

I don't have Foxtel, so whatever exposure I have to King is from video snippets or articles in the free press. My issue is with the form rather than the content. If he delivered his thoughts without the theatrical die-hard-Cartlon-fan carry-on, it would be a lot better IMO. Listening to him at times, he sounds like folks on here after a bad loss. I don't know whether my tastes are eccentric or pernickety, but him and many others are insufferable far too often. My personal preference is for someone like Daniel Hoyne. He's not a commentator, but I like the way he just presents the data and leaves the histrionics behind :

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/p...hare-tools

Confess to liking them both, though for very different reasons.

I think they're clearly pointing out, and I've commented on this here, is that we've simply gone too far with such an offensive mindset.

Seems to me that when your mindset is so singularly 'attack' focussed, defensive accountability goes out the door... perhaps accountability, full stop, is a casualty of such a one-dimension approach?

[dodge]

One incident makes a trend these days according to all the media and analysts.