Post Game Pandemonium!: AFL 2020 Rd 14: Carlton vs Collingwood

[Gointocarlton]

I'd like to hear Teague's after match thoughts as that was a crap effort and totally uncoordinated.  Really poor.  And Martin, learn how to kick FFS.

I was thinking about the game last night and some vision I saw. I thought in the first half we were ok and it was pretty even. At half time, they went to a shot within our rooms and you could see all the players with their line coaches intently looking at computer screens, discussing, plotting, planning, gesturing. Then they went out and didn't score a goal.
As for the game, we lost to a better more hardened team (even with their outs) who simply wanted it more. Not going to bother with singling out players or coaches, you simply don't win games of footy with a goalless qtr let alone two.

[Professer E]

SPS was an earlier draft.

The Dow draft year was a tough one for recruiters,  most clubs went LDU as no.  1, there was no clear cut choice. Ultimately Rayner went no.  1 and there were concerns re his fitness levels. We went with the more speculative pick due to perceived upside.

Dow's underage footy hasnt translated to senior level because his breakaway pace and the uncluttered nature of underage footy let him hunt the ball at will (no tagging) and blast away without learning how to negotiate through traffic and
dispose under pressure.  So he needs a lot of development work (IE twos footy) to skill him up to harness that bust away pace.  Compare that against say Fisher,  who learnt tricks to compete in heavy traffic given his diminutive size. 

[Gointocarlton]

SPS was an earlier draft.

The Dow draft year was a tough one for recruiters,  most clubs went LDU as no.  1, there was no clear cut choice. Ultimately Rayner went no.  1 and there were concerns re his fitness levels. We went with the more speculative pick due to perceived upside.

Dow's underage footy hasnt translated to senior level because his breakaway pace and the uncluttered nature of underage footy let him hunt the ball at will (no tagging) and blast away without learning how to negotiate through traffic and
dispose under pressure.  So he needs a lot of development work (IE twos footy) to skill him up to harness that bust away pace.  Compare that against say Fisher,  who learnt tricks to compete in heavy traffic given his diminutive size. 

Great points Prof, I do believe though that Fisher does possess much better natural evasive and footwork skills than Paddy, not to say Paddy cant add that string to his bow.

[Professer E]

I liked Cerra, because he was a hard,  competive kid with a good size,  skill set and adequate pace... Just a good solid, competitive player.  A hard footballer is the best description I remember.  But I can see why we overlooked him because he lacked that standout feature - Rayners goal kicking tricks ("the next Dusty"!!!), Dow's pace or LDUs massive frame.but I had no doubts he'd be a 200 game player.

[cookie2]

Probably highlighted just how far we still have to go to catch the big boys.

[capcom]

Not going to bother with singling out players or coaches, you simply don't win games of footy with a goalless qtr let alone two.

You sure don't GTC.  I can see a hectic trade season coming up.  As for your comment on Cera / SPS trade, yes ... amongst others.  Off topic, but Daicos impressed me.

[Gointocarlton]

You sure don't GTC.  I can see a hectic trade season coming up.  As for your comment on Cera / SPS trade, yes ... amongst others.  Off topic, but Daicos impressed me.

Daicos found a lot of space which we didn't respect, he used his pace to hurt to us.

[townsendcalling]

Great points Prof, I do believe though that Fisher does possess much better natural evasive and footwork skills than Paddy, not to say Paddy cant add that string to his bow.

Fisher did have half a season playing  senior football in Perth for Perth  in 2016 which helped him craft his game.

[Gointocarlton]

Fisher did have half a season playing  senior football in Perth for Perth  in 2016 which helped him craft his game.

Agree but I still reckon that aspect of his game (dancing evasive feet) he had as a young kid.

[LordLucifer]

There are a lot of players who look good when their team is in front and winning. The real test of a player's worth is when its tough and they are behind just like yesterday's game. These players put their hand up in the clinches and really "want it", they are desperate for a win.

Sadly, there were more than a few of our lads who didn't "want it" enough and in turn, have to be questioned as to whether they are genuinely up to the standard required to win premierships.

Yes, there are plenty still with their trainer wheels on but that isn't an excuse for a lack of skills & "never say die" attitude.

Extremely disappointing & embarrassing performance in the second half, I hope Teague stripped paint off the walls in his spray at them for that effort.