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[LP]

If this was 2 years earlier, my daughter would be one of the ones suffering right now.

As far as I know the real long term problem is going to come from the insurers trying to weasel out of honouring compulsory policies that are meant to protect mum and dad investors.

I know of people still waiting for insurance claims to be settled from the fires back in 2019, that is criminal!

[LP]

Porter Davis wouldn't have woken up on Friday morning, seen their bank account and thought we can't do this anymore - it would have been some time coming.  Their management of it would have been calm on the top of the water and panic underneath for a while as they sought to continue.

If they are guilty, they can run but they will have nowhere to hide, the era of big data has screwed over anybody who thinks they can live the high life as a white-collar criminal.

Sometimes that becomes a political issue, but even that is diminishing in modern times, it's very very hard to be a Christopher Skaise in the 2020s. For example it looks like Trump is betting on being President to avoid facing his issues, Bolsonaro the same, their is nobody in Porter Davis or Lloyd's at that level even if there are a few scoundrels.

Some have tried to go down the 1%ers route and become lawless, but then the people that help you hide ultimately become the executioner.

On the flipside, were the Vic timber bans the end for Lloyd's and Porter Davis, if so how has that anger to be directed, at an environmentalist?

[ElwoodBlues1]

Mum and Dad investors and superfunds will see the last of the money.

Anything of worth will go to the creditors and the people left at the end of it will likely get nothing including the screwed over employees.

This is where investing in stocks is problematic.

There are as many creditors as there are unfinished homes, Id suggest there wont be much of anything after the Receivers sift through the books. The Andrews Government have gone quiet on the liquidation and dont appear to be offering any help either so I reckon homebuilders and staff will be short changed badly on this one.
Superfunds tend to go ASX top 50 stocks and mainly top 20 so more banks and miners etc, banks can have a few defaulters when building companies go broke but they usually find other ways to recoup their money and thats by hitting up other borrowers and adding some fees to accounts for mugs like us.
Its does pay to look at Companies a bit deeper than just the glossy brochures and if you look at Porter Davis they made a poor move in acquiring Engelhardt homes a couple of years ago and the CEO and ex CBA Private Bank Boss Adrian Hondros after extending his tenure with PD suddenly left as well and that was a bit of a red flag that something wasnt right.

[ElwoodBlues1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7dyJfUxgOw
So they just take the word of the individual as to which sex they identify with in Canada in some sports and its open slather to compete in any comp male or female?
But hang on you have to be "nice" like the other real trans gender athletes to compensate for having an unfair advantage over the non trans female athletes...thats makes it ok but when the non nice non trans man identifying as a female athlete wants to compete its not fair?
So adding all that up...being nice about it make its fair .....????

[LP]

Some of you will notice the rhetoric spinning up this week calling for bans or controls on AI, while the idea of controls and monitoring make sense, the rhetoric is over the top.

Many of the very same people claiming AI is a risk to democracy are the people who defend Trumps "alternative truths", or the right to own and carry guns, along with a whole host of other weirdo conspiracy theories like those myths surrounding the Obama's or Bill Gates.

People can go around and keep shooting school children, but a website that debunks your leader's spin is an evil that must be terminated.

It's a huge tell about who you want to listen to, just saying!

[LP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7dyJfUxgOw
So they just take the word of the individual as to which sex they identify with in Canada in some sports and its open slather to compete in any comp male or female?
But hang on you have to be "nice" like the other real trans gender athletes to compensate for having an unfair advantage over the non trans female athletes...thats makes it ok but when the non nice non trans man identifying as a female athlete wants to compete its not fair?
So adding all that up...being nice about it make its fair .....????

Thanks [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member]

I can't believe it's coming to this, I mean it's surreal isn't it, without being malicious, this is exactly the reason why the likes of Hannah Mouncey can never ever play AFLW and should not be allowed to play VFLW either.

Ignoring the bizarre aspects of the CPU, I can't believe people think this stuff won't happen in general as it is already happening, and in sports that attract high remuneration it won't just be a possibility it will be inevitable. Whether it is just a legal loophole like the CPU, or requires a genuine transition, they'll do it because they can.

[Gointocarlton]

Thanks [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member]

I can't believe it's coming to this, I mean it's surreal isn't it, without being malicious, this is exactly the reason why the likes of Hannah Mouncey can never ever play AFLW and should not be allowed to play VFLW either.

Ignoring the bizarre aspects of the CPU, I can't believe people think this stuff won't happen in general as it is already happening, and in sports that attract high remuneration it won't just be a possibility it will be inevitable. Whether it is just a legal loophole like the CPU, or requires a genuine transition, they'll do it because they can.

Well, you only needed to watch 5 minutes of the 60 mins story the other night where parents don't assign a gender to their babies. At that point you realise just how farked the world is becoming.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Well, you only needed to watch 5 minutes of the 60 mins story the other night where parents don't assign a gender to their babies. At that point you realise just how farked the world is becoming.

That was disturbing stuff watching that and what effect it will have on those children....do they have a non gender name to like x or y, xy, etc etc.

[DJC]

Well, you only needed to watch 5 minutes of the 60 mins story the other night where parents don't assign a gender to their babies. At that point you realise just how farked the world is becoming.

You have to wonder whether would-be parents should pass an aptitude test before being allowed to reproduce ?

The other side of the coin is the practice of doctors arbitrarily deciding whether gender-indeterminate babies should be male or female and surgically removing the “unnecessary” bits.

[Thryleon]

You have to wonder whether would-be parents should pass an aptitude test before being allowed to reproduce ?

The other side of the coin is the practice of doctors arbitrarily deciding whether gender-indeterminate babies should be male or female and surgically removing the “unnecessary” bits.

Exceptions don't prove the rule statistically.

They are called outliers for a reason.

Currently (I find it incredible to believe that they would make that decision without consulting the parents) here are the stats:

It is estimated that up to 1.7 percent of the population has an intersex trait and that approximately 0.5 percent of people have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations.

Considering the point of gender is about reproduction (all other things being equal) does it make sense to make that decision based on the ability to reproduce?

Perhaps not.  I don't have the answer, but seeing people pretend to be something they aren't is not the answer either.