The rise.... and RISE of Marc Pittonet

[LP]

Hmm, in your own words.

Part A

CA% - Contests to Advantage % - What percentage of ruck contests that you competed in, resulted in a hitout to advantage

Part B

The CA% is essentially (hitouts to advantage / number of centre bounces attended). So it takes into account every single hitout that the ruck contested. Included every single one that he lost. How do i know this? I created the stat!

 
So we take every single hit out to advantage, from everywhere and anywhere on the ground, and divide it by the number of centre bounces contested, and that's a world beating stat we have to take note of, whatever it means i suppose it favours some players.

Ruck stats from todays game.
Pittonet
44 ruck contests
20 hitouts
4 hitouts to advantage
9% CA - Hitouts to advantage from ruck contest. (4/44)

Ladhams
48 ruck contests
16 hitouts
2 hitouts to advantage
4% CA - Hitouts to advantage from ruck contest (2/48)

 

The CA% is essentially (hitouts to advantage / number of centre bounces attended).

 
4/44 or 4/48 ? :o

In a game with only 4 Qtrs and 18 goals we had at least 48 centre bounces it seems!

There are stats, then there are stats and then there are damn lies! ;D

[ElwoodBlues1]

I reckon that was possibly Ladhams first game as a #1 ruck....ever. Not sure how much homework could've been done on him.

I'd love to see a rematch though and see what we've learned.

Think the commentators mentioned that Ladhams for a ruckman gets a fair amount of ball....I know you like your stats..pre this game, averages 14.6 possies a game, 3 one percenters and 3-4 clearances...that would tell me that he needs to be given a bit more respect than he was today in terms of manning him up after the bounce/ball up.
Like I said he was often battling with our mids for the ball with his opponent ruckman not in the action. 21 possies@76%DE for a no name player is going to hurt when Pitto only had three disposals.
Its just the little things like this that make the difference IMO

[kruddler]

Hmm, in your own words.

Part A
Part B
So we take every single hit out to advantage, from everywhere and anywhere on the ground, and divide it by the number of centre bounces contested, and that's a world beating stat we have to take note of, whatever it means i suppose it favours some players. 
4/44 or 4/48 ? :o

In a game with only 4 Qtrs and 18 goals we had at least 48 centre bounces it seems!

There are stats, then there are stats and then there are damn lies! ;D

The part B is a typo. That should read ruck contests as well.

It is not limited to centre square hitouts or contests.

Again , the maths hold up.

[kruddler]

Think the commentators mentioned that Ladhams for a ruckman gets a fair amount of ball....I know you like your stats..pre this game, averages 14.6 possies a game, 3 one percenters and 3-4 clearances...that would tell me that he needs to be given a bit more respect than he was today in terms of manning him up after the bounce/ball up.
Like I said he was often battling with our mids for the ball with his opponent ruckman not in the action. 21 possies@76%DE for a no name player is going to hurt when Pitto only had three disposals.
Its just the little things like this that make the difference IMO

I agree with you EB.

I'm not the coach though.

[Baggers]

I agree with you EB.

I'm not the coach though.

I think Pitto's struggling a bit. He's a strong presence at the bounce as many have mentioned. He gets to plenty of contests around the game but the ball either falls out of his hands or he doesn't crash the pack. He crashes the pack late in today's game and the ball goes out of bounds. I love his attitude and reckon he'll grow to clean up on some of his short comings.

[LP]

I think Pitto's struggling a bit. He's a strong presence at the bounce as many have mentioned. He gets to plenty of contests around the game but the ball either falls out of his hands or he doesn't crash the pack. He crashes the pack late in today's game and the ball goes out of bounds. I love his attitude and reckon he'll grow to clean up on some of his short comings.

Yep, Pitto's a work in progress with a long future if he's willing to learn.

That kid Ladhams is one out of the box. Although I've not seen how Ladhams goes against a AA ruck option, you can see why they happily let Ryder go. Hard to see how he slipped through to a rookie draft without some serious shenanigans!

[kruddler]

So many people have been raving about Pittonets efforts today.

Interesting to note that he actually had his worst day in the ruck, in ruck work that is.

However, he had one of his better games around the ground, which is the area he's needed to improve on.

FWIW, todays ruck stats.

Pittonet
72 ruck contests.
27 hitouts
2 hitouts to advantage
3% CA - hitouts to advantage from ruck contests competed in.

Goldstein
77 ruck contests
41 hitouts
6 hitouts to advantage
8% CA.

But as i mentioned...
Pitt - Gold - stat
11 - 8 - disposals
6 - 3 - clearances
3 - 0 - inside 50's
0 - 3 - clangers

[RiverRat]

So many people have been raving about Pittonets efforts today.

Interesting to note that he actually had his worst day in the ruck, in ruck work that is.

However, he had one of his better games around the ground, which is the area he's needed to improve on.

FWIW, todays ruck stats.

Pittonet
72 ruck contests.
27 hitouts
2 hitouts to advantage
3% CA - hitouts to advantage from ruck contests competed in.

Goldstein
77 ruck contests
41 hitouts
6 hitouts to advantage
8% CA.

But as i mentioned...
Pitt - Gold - stat
11 - 8 - disposals
6 - 3 - clearances
3 - 0 - inside 50's
0 - 3 - clangers

Goldy had his way with Moore and put the ball wherever he wanted it when they were opposed in the ruck.  I would be interested in comparing the stats when Goldy was opposed to Pitto.

[kruddler]

Goldy had his way with Moore and put the ball wherever he wanted it when they were opposed in the ruck.  I would be interested in comparing the stats when Goldy was opposed to Pitto.

Unfortunately i can't access something that specific.

However, i do recall the best hitout of the day was actually Moore against Goldy in the centre square.

* a quick check of the stats *

Apparantly Moore only had 2 hitouts for the day (from 10 contests), but 1 was to advantage and would be the one i was referring too.

[LP]

Just shows how meaningless the stats are when discussing ruck.

Be interesting to see if Pittonet gets an AFLCA vote.