Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

[capcom]

Rather merciless comments from some quarters, but that's OK.  I just don't wanna be on the Lyon / Voss / Scott / who's next carousel anymore after the incumbent has had no time no fly  in what is a completely pointless season.  And here was me thinking I was a ruthless so and so.

I know where I'd start with pruning useless coaches.  Teague ain't one of them .... yet 

[laj]

How far have we come? In my eyes not very. Same rubbish but different. It was like Teague was going to sprinkle his magic dust on the players and all would be solved. As has been pointed out, his record vs his predecessors is scarily similar, skills havent improved, young players havent really developed, they continue to play rejects from other clubs. Im effin sick of it. I dont see anything different being tried, just the same stuff over and over again hoping for a different result. Its madness.

Unfortunately the issues that have afflicted our club are not going to disappear overnight. Some coach will do it one day but it will take a while to shift the attitude/culture. Been an issue since Ratten was sacked. Like something Hardwick inherited in 2010. Took a long time to turn that culture around. 3 years to make the finals, 3 years of losing the first final then a crap year before firing. Hopefully we don't take that long. Ability seem ok, we can play half a game of footy as good as anyone, attitude/culture/"want", that's the very disappointing issue....grrrrr!!!! Bar Port no club has won more qtrs than us, which is horribly disappointing given we are 0-2. Get an attitude, proper focus, and watch the skills improve.

[Gointocarlton]

You guys may very well turn out to be right.
The next 3 or 4 weeks will tell the story.
I just tried to imagine the effect the stutter start would have had....and it would be different for everyone.
One of the most cliché comments we tend to hear is "They're all professional footballers. They should tough it out."
But there's a world of difference between a  mature 30 year old and an 18 year old recruit.
The mental durability varies greatly from player to player.
As we've also seen in recent times mental health issues can affect footballers in much the same way as they do the general population.
So this season is different from any other.
A month or two back and the players would have had little idea whether or not the season would even recommence.
They would have been training in isolation and the input and contact from the club would have been seriously limited compared to normal.
So in effect they've had 6-8 weeks of uncertainty compared to a normal pre-season of structured progressive training. I reckon that's got to impact, and clubs and players will handle that differently.... and because of that I reckon it will take a few weeks to determine where we really sit.

Lods, some cope, some dont, some win, some lose, some grow, some stall. Calton is always in the group that doesnt cope, loses, stalls. If there needed to be a study on on negatives, Carlton would be the prime subject. They are cursed, I gotta bring my mum there to get rid of the malocchio.

[Gointocarlton]

Rather merciless comments from some quarters, but that's OK.  I just don't wanna be on the Lyon / Voss / Scott / who's next carousel anymore after the incumbent has had no time no fly  in what is a completely pointless season.  And here was me thinking I was a ruthless so and so.

I know where I'd start with pruning useless coaches.  Teague ain't one of them .... yet 

Carlton deserves every single piece of heat they can from every quarter of the football world. Our recent history is a constant feed of false dawns, false starts, failed recruiting, failed coaches, failed starts in games, its doesnt farken end my god!!!! I am 53 years and have followed and supported (financially bar a couple of years) the club since I can remember, I have gone on the odd rant before but I have never ever felt the sense of embarrassment I have for the once mighty Carlton Football Club like I do now.

[Gointocarlton]

Rather merciless comments from some quarters, but that's OK.  I just don't wanna be on the Lyon / Voss / Scott / who's next carousel anymore after the incumbent has had no time no fly  in what is a completely pointless season.  And here was me thinking I was a ruthless so and so.

I know where I'd start with pruning useless coaches.  Teague ain't one of them .... yet 

But thats my whole bloody point, ITS AWLWAYS prune, sack, chop, cull, drop, reduce, sever ties, it doesnt bloody end.

[LP]

Ross Lyon is done, that would be almost as bad of a decision as whoever signed Malthouse, almost.

[capcom]

Carlton deserves every single piece of heat they can from every quarter of the football world. Our recent history is a constant feed of false dawns, false starts, failed recruiting, failed coaches, failed starts in games, its doesnt farken end my god!!!! I am 53 years and have followed and supported (financially bar a couple of years) the club since I can remember, I have gone on the odd rant before but I have never ever felt the sense of embarrassment I have for the once mighty Carlton Football Club like I do now.

Did my message not come across as supporting the general thrust of your opinions on the subject GTC?

[Gointocarlton]

Did my message not come across as supporting the general thrust of your opinions on the subject GTC?

Yes mate, just venting and ranting some more. Wasnt having a crack

[capcom]

Yes mate, just venting and ranting some more. Wasnt having a crack

I know ... you can cut loose and so do I.  ) )  The angels tread a little easier nowadays given my age 8)

     

[PaulP]

Ross Lyon is done, that would be almost as bad of a decision as whoever signed Malthouse, almost.

The decision to sack Ratten was terrible, but Malthouse is not a bad replacement. You have to start asking questions when a bloke can have success at 3 clubs and only comes a cropper when he reaches the coach's graveyard.

Hopefully Teague succeeds, if for no other reason than we've run out of burial sites.