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(03-20-2020, 04:58 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:It's still early for sure but our disposal and skills were terrible in both practice games and yet there were a few that put it down to just being practice games. Well it was the real deal last night and we still sucked. Gee whiz, who woulda thunk it? :
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(03-20-2020, 05:29 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Gee whiz, who woulda thunk it? :
Yes and our F50 entries especially in 1H were very poor quality, long bombs onto the heads of forwards rather than to advantage. We just don't learn, hell the Tiger game plan is based on taking advantage of that stuff.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(03-20-2020, 07:11 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yes and our F50 entries especially in 1H were very poor quality, long bombs onto the heads of forwards rather than to advantage. We just don't learn, hell the Tiger game plan is based on taking advantage of that stuff. And with the bombs, they need to abandon that immediately for one reason, Gov. He was jumping at everything but its dangerous for his health, he is writing cheques his body cant cash.
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(03-20-2020, 08:10 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:And with the bombs, they need to abandon that immediately for one reason, Gov. He was jumping at everything but its dangerous for his health, he is writing cheques his body cant cash.
As discussed elsewhere, its partly tactical.
We can continue to do that, we just tell him not to jump at them.
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(03-20-2020, 07:11 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yes and our F50 entries especially in 1H were very poor quality, long bombs onto the heads of forwards rather than to advantage. We just don't learn, hell the Tiger game plan is based on taking advantage of that stuff.
150% agree Cookie.
Why I constantly say we are the dumbest club in the comp.
Doesn't matter how many times we change the coach, get new blood in, early draft picks whatever, we still have NFI how to do a basic spot up pass to a leading forward.
How many times do we stuff it up when we are out and have space and our forwards are calling for it behind the defenders when there is space to lead into. No crap, but we learnt that at under 10s and under 12s.
Been a long time since I have watched a Carlton team move the ball into their fifty with any sort of system.
I like Jack but the pass he tried to execute when only 35 dead in front out was dumb football. Then you have Plowman calling for the ball to take a running shot is again a play that shows no system. Murphy seeing it was Plowman and giving it to him was beyond stupid.
These are 2 examples of plays that teams with a system rarely if ever would try.
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(03-20-2020, 08:13 AM)kruddler link Wrote:As discussed elsewhere, its partly tactical.
We can continue to do that, we just tell him not to jump at them. If thats tactical, Ill give the game and the club away.
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(03-20-2020, 08:13 AM)shawny link Wrote:150% agree Cookie.
Why I constantly say we are the dumbest club in the comp.
Doesn't matter how many times we change the coach, get new blood in, early draft picks whatever, we still have NFI how to do a basic spot up pass to a leading forward.
How many times do we stuff it up when we are out and have space and our forwards are calling for it behind the defenders when there is space to lead into. No crap, but we learnt that at under 10s and under 12s.
Been a long time since I have watched a Carlton team move the ball into their fifty with any sort of system.
I like Jack but the pass he tried to execute when only 35 dead in front out was dumb football. Then you have Plowman calling for the ball to take a running shot is again a play that shows no system. Murphy seeing it was Plowman and giving it to him was beyond stupid.
These are 2 examples of plays that teams with a system rarely if ever would try. And Teague was Adelaide's Fwd Line coach :  I was listening to the radio today and they were discussing what audio they could overlay on the broadcast to cover for the lack of a crowd. For our 1st qtr and abit, Benny Hill music would have been apt.
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(03-20-2020, 08:18 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:If thats tactical, Ill give the game and the club away.
I mentioned elsewhere, don't know if you read it.
Teague said pre-game, and this is the same message from last year, that he wants to get the ball forward and lock it inside 50/forward half.
Getting the ball forward is self explanatory.
How do you lock it in?
Obviously if you can find a teammate inside 50, hit him up. If not? Bomb it long towards the boundary. If you can't mark it, ensure the opposition does not. They will most likely spoil it towards the boundary and cause a throw in.
This gives you time to set up for the stoppage, and set up your wall across half forward.
From there, back cripps and co to win the stoppage and get a shot on goal.
Its a 'cousin' of the malthouse game plan of go long down the line if nothing is on so you are not beaten on the slingshot.
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(03-20-2020, 08:26 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I mentioned elsewhere, don't know if you read it.
Teague said pre-game, and this is the same message from last year, that he wants to get the ball forward and lock it inside 50/forward half.
Getting the ball forward is self explanatory.
How do you lock it in?
Obviously if you can find a teammate inside 50, hit him up. If not? Bomb it long towards the boundary. If you can't mark it, ensure the opposition does not. They will most likely spoil it towards the boundary and cause a throw in.
This gives you time to set up for the stoppage, and set up your wall across half forward.
From there, back cripps and co to win the stoppage and get a shot on goal.
Its a 'cousin' of the malthouse game plan of go long down the line if nothing is on so you are not beaten on the slingshot. Bombing long towards the boundary is one thing and I understand that but we dont do that. We bomb it straight down the middle and the oppo defenders lick their collective chops. I cannot be convinced that our fwd entry play has any form of system ATM.
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(03-20-2020, 08:32 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I cannot be convinced that our fwd entry play has any form of system ATM.
It is non existent. We're OK on protection, pathetic in attack and incapable in following a game plan.
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