CV and mad panic behaviour

[Baggers]

You'll start to notice that News Ltd rags are gradually demoting / diminishing the number of COVID-19 reports from the front pages, they may even post small editorials claiming they are doing so because of concern regarding the public mental health.

But the truth is that reporting the COVID-19 numbers doesn't sit well with the News Ltd corporate policy, and some of those on the inside at News Ltd are not happy about it, as such they have developed a few leaks.

Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to see Bolt and Co.'s reaction to ScoMo saying that at present, 'We are all Victorians... and that political and state boundaries are being put aside to fight a common enemy...' Ye gods, ScoMo and Dan buddying up, the far right will be vanishing up their own dots.

And how will News Corp deal with not being able to sensationalise and divide and demonise the moderates and the left!

[Micky0]

Those blaming Dan for the failures of the idiots in quarantine, are just looking for an excuse to give him a kick.  Disappointed to see The Age becoming more like the HS every day too, there's been an obvious change to the language used and the sensationalism imo.

I don't understand how the quarantined guests and security guards taking them to 7/11 and bonking them have gotten out of this without punishment.  Isn't it sad that we're looking at our premier as at fault rather than the ADULTS clearly told what they needed to do and the seriousness of it (ie being quarantined) and the security guards paid to ensure they were doing the right thing.  What do people want, police sent to enforce the security enforcing the idiot returned travellers?  Who enforces the police then?  Bring in the army, to enforce the police, to enforce security to ensure adults do the right thing.  But who enforces the army do the right thing... and on and on.

[Micky0]

On Nz, had a friend contact me the other day.  Life is not back to normal and rainbows and sunshine over there.  He said the economy is tanking, the media is just being as relentless as ours about the misery of it all.

This is where our media and scumo etc have stuffed up, it's great if your little patch is corona-free but life won't get back to normal until EVERY area is under control - the Melbourne bashing going on is shooting yourself in the foot, we need everyone to stick together to help everyone come out of this as well as possible.  You think reporting on how the Crossroads cluster originated from a Melbourne man is helpful?  Where did he get it from, someone that was a contact of someone on the Ruby Princess?  It's unhelpful and detrimental to what we should all be striving for, helping one another.

[Gointocarlton]

Those blaming Dan for the failures of the idiots in quarantine, are just looking for an excuse to give him a kick.  Disappointed to see The Age becoming more like the HS every day too, there's been an obvious change to the language used and the sensationalism imo.

I don't understand how the quarantined guests and security guards taking them to 7/11 and bonking them have gotten out of this without punishment.  Isn't it sad that we're looking at our premier as at fault rather than the ADULTS clearly told what they needed to do and the seriousness of it (ie being quarantined) and the security guards paid to ensure they were doing the right thing.  What do people want, police sent to enforce the security enforcing the idiot returned travellers?  Who enforces the police then?  Bring in the army, to enforce the police, to enforce security to ensure adults do the right thing.  But who enforces the army do the right thing... and on and on.

The other states got it right, just saying.

[Jack Burton]

The other states got it right, just saying.

So far. This is just the beginning. And I wouldn't describe the Ruby Princess fiasco as getting it right

[Baggers]

The other states got it right, just saying.

Too early to tell with NSW, GTC, and the other states, like NZ, have low populations. Time will tell... this C-19 thing has a long way to go... probably not even 1/4 time.

[Baggers]

On Nz, had a friend contact me the other day.  Life is not back to normal and rainbows and sunshine over there.  He said the economy is tanking, the media is just being as relentless as ours about the misery of it all.

This is where our media and scumo etc have stuffed up, it's great if your little patch is corona-free but life won't get back to normal until EVERY area is under control - the Melbourne bashing going on is shooting yourself in the foot, we need everyone to stick together to help everyone come out of this as well as possible.  You think reporting on how the Crossroads cluster originated from a Melbourne man is helpful?  Where did he get it from, someone that was a contact of someone on the Ruby Princess?  It's unhelpful and detrimental to what we should all be striving for, helping one another.

Classy post, MO. Mature perspective. We, too, have NZ connections (Mrs Baggers mother and sister and her family all live in NZ - South Island) and they don't report rainbows and blue skies either. Economy is sluggish to say the least but they all reckon that Jacinda is really good... oh, except for Mrs Baggers' mother, but she's a Pom and not happy unless she's whining about how women should be in the family home and not working!!!! Yep, she and I have had some colourful discussions!!!).

[Thryleon]

If Scomo is turning an about face, prepare to see escalation of cases outside of Victoria, and a few things to keep in mind.

1.  Any state saying "they did better than Victoria" needs to be sure they actually did.  The only thing that the other states have on Victoria is dumb luck.  For any New South Welshman who wants to throw stones, the words Ruby Princess are all we need to remind them of.

2.  The security guards and quarantine guests are one symptom of a wider issue.  The Australian public do not in general take this threat seriously.  These return traveller's were put up in 5 star hotels courtesy of the tax payer.  Why are the Hotels not wearing any heat surrounding THEIR obligation in this, and isn't the security hired by them at our cost?  Shouldn't we be placing our ire at big business who more than likely outsourced their costs to security companies, did so with the usual efficiency of spending as little as possible to tick the check box and then have not adhered to any protocols laid out to them with respect to quarantine, cleaning, masks, etc?  Crown Resorts, Rydges, etc.  Yeah the government failed them...  Lets remember these people are not prisoners, they are complicit in the crime.  They were given a lifeline where tourism is ceased, and travel is suspended and they have squandered their opportunity.  From memory 90% of international travel to Aus, was being filtered through Victoria to minimise the risk, and this probably has a bit more to do with the blowback Dan is facing now.  Keep in mind that Sydney had its Ruby Princess debacle when wondering why this might be the case.

3.  There was a massive blow up regarding the conditions the guests were being kept in with respect to them being inhumane, overly strict, and you get the idea.  The media has had a bet each way, and is simply cashing in at the moment.

4.  The talk of bringing in the defense force to police the hotels is a recent discussion.  If the ills stretch back that far, then they were had from the perspective of DOD getting a piece of Corona finances.  Hence the recent focus on Australia's security from China.  Trying to throw Dan into that bed is likely another angle for them to work to get a piece of the financial pie they are missing out on.

I think the Australian people are being played for fools, and as per usual the loudest voices are all they need on board to conduct a hatchet job on one bloke at the top like it will make a difference.

Keep in mind something, all this money that they are spending now, is money taken out of budgets in future.  That means future pain that these departments are all going to wear, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see a bunch of people spending money they don't need on things they are going to need moving forward to make up for any future shortfalls.

[LP]

Your inside perspective is always enlightening Thry, I didn't realise International air travellers were be preferentially directed to Victoria, so I crossed checked that and it seems it's correct.

But perhaps it's not really as a deliberate act as people might think. Like Sydney has it's deep water ports for cruise liners, a lot of flights into Australia arriving in Melbourne has to do with which airlines maintained international flights, where they have or can get landing slots in Tullamarine or Avalon, where airlines choose to have their capacity limited hubs, and the hours airports can or would remain open as not all are 24x7.

[Baggers]

If Scomo is turning an about face, prepare to see escalation of cases outside of Victoria, and a few things to keep in mind.

1.  Any state saying "they did better than Victoria" needs to be sure they actually did.  The only thing that the other states have on Victoria is dumb luck.  For any New South Welshman who wants to throw stones, the words Ruby Princess are all we need to remind them of.

2.  The security guards and quarantine guests are one symptom of a wider issue.  The Australian public do not in general take this threat seriously.  These return traveller's were put up in 5 star hotels courtesy of the tax payer.  Why are the Hotels not wearing any heat surrounding THEIR obligation in this, and isn't the security hired by them at our cost?  Shouldn't we be placing our ire at big business who more than likely outsourced their costs to security companies, did so with the usual efficiency of spending as little as possible to tick the check box and then have not adhered to any protocols laid out to them with respect to quarantine, cleaning, masks, etc?  Crown Resorts, Rydges, etc.  Yeah the government failed them...  Lets remember these people are not prisoners, they are complicit in the crime.  They were given a lifeline where tourism is ceased, and travel is suspended and they have squandered their opportunity.  From memory 90% of international travel to Aus, was being filtered through Victoria to minimise the risk, and this probably has a bit more to do with the blowback Dan is facing now.  Keep in mind that Sydney had its Ruby Princess debacle when wondering why this might be the case.

3.  There was a massive blow up regarding the conditions the guests were being kept in with respect to them being inhumane, overly strict, and you get the idea.  The media has had a bet each way, and is simply cashing in at the moment.

4.  The talk of bringing in the defense force to police the hotels is a recent discussion.  If the ills stretch back that far, then they were had from the perspective of DOD getting a piece of Corona finances.  Hence the recent focus on Australia's security from China.  Trying to throw Dan into that bed is likely another angle for them to work to get a piece of the financial pie they are missing out on.

I think the Australian people are being played for fools, and as per usual the loudest voices are all they need on board to conduct a hatchet job on one bloke at the top like it will make a difference.

Keep in mind something, all this money that they are spending now, is money taken out of budgets in future.  That means future pain that these departments are all going to wear, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see a bunch of people spending money they don't need on things they are going to need moving forward to make up for any future shortfalls.

Brilliant post, 3 Leos. Perspective. Reality. Truth. Para 2 in your quality contribution to this discussion is one that some folks should read over and over.