CV and mad panic behaviour

[Gointocarlton]

Just to dot point what im saying.  The vaccines were garbage the lockdowns not so much.

Fair points, I think the vaccines were as good as they could have been given the incredibly short time they were fast tracked in. I remember hearing a Aussie scientist on radio at the time saying how the amount of worldwide collaboration and information sharing when they were trying to come up with a vaccine was out of this world. They were virtually living on zoom/teams day and night. I cant remember the numbers but they were like trying to expedite 10 years of work in months.

[Gointocarlton]

I am seeing lots of articles pop up lately potting the various covid responses. Today there is an article suggesting police were heavy handed during the covid protests. What purpose does it serve? Everyone's an expert after the fact. Governments and their agencies were doing the best they could with the limited information they had to protect the greater community. The farktards out there protesting were doing it just to get out of the house with little or no regards for the safety of the community. I think it was such an uncertain time where everyone just needed to stick together and follow the rules (as hard and draconian as they might have seemed).
Anyway, that's my take on that whole saga. Hopefully we never have to experience it again, if we do hopefully we are better equiped.

[LP]

Just to dot point what im saying.  The vaccines were garbage the lockdowns not so much.

The statistical evidence of the efficacy for both lockdowns and vaccines is overwhelmingly positive, globally there are billions of tests cases for both, it's the great weakness in the anti-vax anti-lockdown position which just confirms all opinions are not equal.

Even more damning, are the statistics for the unvaccinated outcomes, pretty much any valid peer reviewed source shows the unvaccinated fell or had worse outcomes at massively higher rates to the vaccinated.

There are some scientific and specialist groups who remain anti-vax, but they have largely dropped the efficacy debate as it's a loser in any circle, they now choose to focus on the rare side-effects.

They know trying to debate that the vaccines weren't efficacious is like standing in front of an ocean while claiming water doesn't exist, so they won't even mention it out of the fear of lost credibility, but they remain happy to stoke those fires anonymously in social media. The have a generalised anti-vax position, some due to religion, maybe others due to trypanophobia.

[Baggers]

Just to dot point what im saying.  The vaccines were garbage the lockdowns not so much.

Real life, anecdotal story.

This little black duck, fully vaccinated with one booster, has had Covid about four times. The first three times barely noticing the symptoms - day or two of mild fever, mild sore throat, mild runny nose. Then a complete recovery. Over the past nine months I've not had my boosters - silly boy. Got Covid again about three/four weeks ago. Thought things would follow the usual symptomology. Nuh. Couple of days mild fever etc... then it got progressively worse, into the chest/lungs. Ended up with bronchitis and mild pneumonia for around five to seven days. Coughing up things that should have hopped out of my lungs into the nearest pond to join the other frogs! No need for hospitalisation, never got anywhere near that bad - thank the gods for a strong immune system. Completely recovered now.

I recall me posting when I had the mild symptoms recently and then Principal LODS posting that it can develop and get worse... he was right, and I only had myself to blame. Guess who's booked in for a booster shot soon. (Ps the doc diagnosed it was Covid that I had, not another flu etc.)

[Baggers]

They know trying to debate that the vaccines weren't efficacious is like standing in front of an ocean while claiming water doesn't exist...

Love it...

[LP]

And so the chickens of Meredith signal the official beginning of H5N1, it's got the potential to be a bad one, remain vigilant.

[DJC]

I’ve placed my chooks under a strict curfew ?

Interestingly, the cookers are out in force on the poultry forums.  Similar conspiracy theories to those circulating about COVID. ?

[Thryleon]

And so the chickens of Meredith signal the official beginning of H5N1, it's got the potential to be a bad one, remain vigilant.

odds are in 6 months it will all be over. 

[DJC]

odds are in 6 months it will all be over. 

Avian flu generally doesn’t last too long.  It’s a lot easier to limit the transmission of a virus when you can eliminate the birds and animals that are infected or are at risk of infection.  Over 400,000 chooks have already been slaughtered.

Hopefully, it won’t spread to our dairy herds.  Apart from the loss of milk production, avian flu is more likely to infect humans from other mammalian hosts.

[LP]

It's interesting to read the cries for help from Paris retailers and traders about the negative effects of hosting the Olympics.

You have to wonder if the pandemic has at least in the short term changed the general public's view of crowds and congregations, or is it the growing concerns (media spin or real) about violence towards tourists, are they overblown?

Of course, Paris is not a inexpensive destination, and while it might be full of athletes, that is not going to help flash restaurants and bars, most Olympic athletes can barely make ends meet. So no visiting crowds is a big problem, and airlines also seem to be asserting inbound numbers are down.

I have to say, I've not been to France as much as some other countries but I've never really been all that interested in Paris itself, I'd rather be out in the regional areas if I was in France over summer. So I'd probably avoid the crowds too!