CV and mad panic behaviour

[LP]

I think Shawny has fallen foul of a beat up about Sutton's community action statement that was rolled out in the last week of July. There are a bunch of hack stories going around, written word and video, paraphrasing and selectively summarising what Sutton had to say.

In that statement Sutton said is was critical to get your 3rd or 4th boosters to prevent/reduce COVID causing ICU admissions, and he called for the public to take affirmative action on masks, social distancing and the like to minimise COVID numbers. After all, it is a numbers game. But the get your boosters part is being edited out, and the hacks are again running with the "vaccines don't stop COVID" shizen yet again, despite unequivocal evidence that the vaccines save lives!

[ElwoodBlues1]

This has been going on for the better part of 2.5 years now, but some people are still missing the basics.

No, it doesn't prevent Covid. Nobody said it did. You may be prevented from getting it, but at a minimum...
It limits the intensity,
which limits the amount of people who end up in ICU
which limits the amount of people we need to find a bed for
which limits the amount of people who miss out on a bed
which limits the amount of people who die.

Which in turn eases the strain on the health care system so people who have 'regular issues' like heart attacks can actually get an ambulance when they need one, which again, limits the people who die.

But sure....its all BS.

I get the theory about limiting the body count with more jabs but the ambulance system is broken in Victoria with or without CoVid and the ER's are full to overflowing with ramping at extreme levels despite the Governments denials.
Staff are leaving in droves and we have Private Hospitals now being being recruited and forced to close wards for patients to take up the slack and supply facilities and staff.
The reality is more people are passing due to CoVid with the new strains than the original but no one wants to talk about it
or do anything to fix the system and its the Herd mentality approach and when its the economy vs losing some of the herd the economy wins...

[kruddler]

I get the theory about limiting the body count with more jabs but the ambulance system is broken in Victoria with or without CoVid and the ER's are full to overflowing with ramping at extreme levels despite the Governments denials.
Staff are leaving in droves and we have Private Hospitals now being being recruited and forced to close wards for patients to take up the slack and supply facilities and staff.
The reality is more people are passing due to CoVid with the new strains than the original but no one wants to talk about it
or do anything to fix the system and its the Herd mentality approach and when its the economy vs losing some of the herd the economy wins...

100% the ambulance system is broken.

The last thing they need though is more fuel on the fire....which Covid adds.

[LP]

100% the ambulance system is broken.

The last thing they need though is more fuel on the fire....which Covid adds.

Sutton was actually addressing this issue in his community action statement. He wants the public to act in the absence of political action, to take all possible precautions to diminish COVID infections, reducing strain on the health system.

Don't wait to be told to wear a mask, vaccinate or isolate, do it now voluntarily for the sake of the public health system!

If people think the health system is bad, wait and see what happens in education over the coming months, it's been completely mismanaged with the top end keeping their high wages through COVID while the grunt level gets overloaded / offloaded. The grunt is going to leave in droves when this school year is done!

[PaulP]

I think Shawny has fallen foul of a beat up about Sutton's community action statement that was rolled out in the last week of July. There are a bunch of hack stories going around, written word and video, paraphrasing and selectively summarising what Sutton had to say.

In that statement Sutton said is was critical to get your 3rd or 4th boosters to prevent/reduce COVID causing ICU admissions, and he called for the public to take affirmative action on masks, social distancing and the like to minimise COVID numbers. After all, it is a numbers game. But the get your boosters part is being edited out, and the hacks are again running with the "vaccines don't stop COVID" shizen yet again, despite unequivocal evidence that the vaccines save lives!

Thanks.

[Baggers]

I think Shawny has fallen foul of a beat up about Sutton's community action statement that was rolled out in the last week of July. There are a bunch of hack stories going around, written word and video, paraphrasing and selectively summarising what Sutton had to say.

In that statement Sutton said is was critical to get your 3rd or 4th boosters to prevent/reduce COVID causing ICU admissions, and he called for the public to take affirmative action on masks, social distancing and the like to minimise COVID numbers. After all, it is a numbers game. But the get your boosters part is being edited out, and the hacks are again running with the "vaccines don't stop COVID" shizen yet again, despite unequivocal evidence that the vaccines save lives!

Yep, it's not about vaccines preventing Covid, it's how about how they reduce the severity of Covid.

[Mav]

Let’s hope Flyboy will stop by to update us on how well Ivermectin works on the new Omicron subvariants.

[Thryleon]

Still havent tested positive after 8 months of catching PT to and from the city.  In amongst a bunch of kids, going past the Austin Hospital, continuing past Flinders street station, going to Flagstaff.

Not sure whats going on, but I hope I get it whilst they still make you isolate for 7 days because I forsee a time when they stay isolate only whilst symptomatic.  Not sure how under pressure hospitals are either.

[Baggers]

Still havent tested positive after 8 months of catching PT to and from the city.  In amongst a bunch of kids, going past the Austin Hospital, continuing past Flinders street station, going to Flagstaff.

Not sure whats going on, but I hope I get it whilst they still make you isolate for 7 days because I forsee a time when they stay isolate only whilst symptomatic.  Not sure how under pressure hospitals are either.

You might be one of the those cats, 3 Leos, who is asymptomatic. Mrs Baggers tested positive once with no symptoms at all.

[Thryleon]

You might be one of the those cats, 3 Leos, who is asymptomatic. Mrs Baggers tested positive once with no symptoms at all.

Ive been testing twice a week since I changed jobs.  Hospital never cared whether or not we were testing at all.

NFI.

Don't really understand what all the fuss is about.  Suspect that a lot of people are leveraging the climate to take advantage of sick leave.