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CV and mad panic behaviour
(05-04-2021, 11:12 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Health care is tricky.  Most of the reasons why things dont move has more to do with liability, than anything to do with best practise, and litigation has made things a bit more difficult than it needs to be.
Nice insight [member=105]Thryleon[/member]‍ 
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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Another take on the Indian 'disaster'.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/india-covi...sm/5744258
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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(05-05-2021, 02:40 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:Another take on the Indian 'disaster'.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/india-covi...sm/5744258
The articles confuses cause and effect, whether that is deliberate or not I'll leave to the reader.

For example they claim people are dying because "Hospitals are overloaded" in a poor health system, not because of COVID! The truth is the phrase "The Hospitals are overloaded" is a contraction of "The hospitals are Overloaded with COVID patients!" :o

And in context the major comments come from Tengra who is an anti-establishment anarchist.

The cheapest fastest solution for India's 1B plus citizens is vaccination.
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A rational assessment of India's COVID crisis:

Quote:INDIA’S MOUNTAIN of new covid-19 infections is like none other in the course of the pandemic. On April 30th the daily tally of new cases surpassed 400,000, making the country’s current caseload far and away the heaviest yet (the next-biggest outside India was America’s 300,000 new cases recorded on January 2nd). Even that terrible figure is sure to be an underestimate. The share of Indians testing positive for covid-19 is now 23.5%; if a greater proportion of India’s population of 1.4bn were tested, no doubt millions of new cases would be detected. Compared with the scale of South Asia’s first wave, which peaked in September, the second is shocking. South America, another region with a surging caseload, is recording 60% more cases today than at the peak of the first wave. South Asia is logging four times as many, and with hardly a sign of slowing (see chart).

Deaths are now rising rapidly, too. With nearly 3,700 on May 1st, South Asia is logging deaths at the pace the European Union reached during its calamitous peaks of April and November 2020 (see chart). This tally, too, is almost certainly an underestimate. India’s data are collected according to different standards in different places, sometimes apparently with an eye to downplaying the crisis. Some of the country’s most populous states, such as Gujarat with its 64m people or Uttar Pradesh with its 238m, are attributing only tiny fractions of their current excess deaths to covid-19. Simple observation suggests that the true death toll is higher than the official figures suggest. On one day two weeks ago 78 covid deaths were recorded in seven Gujarati cities. On the same day in the same cities 689 funerals were performed under protocols reserved for coronavirus victims.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail...of-control


And an interesting analyses of how and why deaths due to COVID are understated, with hubris, inadequate and overwhelmed health and reporting systems, and political expediency all playing a part:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsod...it-missing


“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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(05-05-2021, 02:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Code Yellow is for bypass on Hospitals, my new info is that it has been scrapped and that the ambulance officers will take you to the closest ER regardless of how many patients are waiting there.
If you have private insurance dont muck around with the public ER's...If In Melbourne go the the Cabrini, Knox Private ER' s and the like...yep it will cost you around $300 to be seen but you will get immediate attention and access to a specialist if required much quicker.
We are now little America healthcare wise and you need Private Insurance, if you are forced into the public system  then go to the Royal Womens if you are female,  or the Austin in Heidelberg ....If I lived in the West I would avoid Sunshine Hospital and try an inner Hospital like Royal Melbourne or John Fawkner which is private.
I went to the Austin and apart from a few goons in the ER who had nothing wrong with them, the service and attention was outstanding, I have zero bad to say about the Austin (Main, ONJ and Repat).
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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https://www.medindia.net/patients/calcul..._clock.asp

Worth a look
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(05-05-2021, 04:18 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I went to the Austin and apart from a few goons in the ER who had nothing wrong with them, the service and attention was outstanding, I have zero bad to say about the Austin (Main, ONJ and Repat).
The Austin is the best of the public system hospitals if you are Melbourne based IMHO, my daughter worked there for a while in orthopedics as a Nurse and she said it was the best that she had worked in. We had a mature part time Nurse at my last employer and she also worked in the ER at Austin part time and said same, one of the few publics that wont kick you out early unless you are fully recovered and right to go.
Its not a given that Private hospitals will treat you any better staff wise but they want to make a dollar out of you therefore will initiate diagnosis/treatment earlier and of course are happy to let you occupy a bed and then give you generous amounts of rehab all in the name of being to able rack up a healthy bill on your insurance.
The worst I have seen is Sunshine Hospital, the Government need to build another public hospital out West and resource it properly, overcrowded, too many rookie staff and the experienced staff are just overworked to the max.
Its a growth area out West and the people deserve better than what they are getting. I'd bang on about the lack of police resources as well but this isnt the thread for it..
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(05-05-2021, 04:23 AM)capcom link Wrote:https://www.medindia.net/patients/calcul..._clock.asp

Worth a look
Fark me a person born every 2 seconds!
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(05-05-2021, 05:49 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:The Austin is the best of the public system hospitals if you are Melbourne based IMHO, my daughter worked there for a while in orthopedics as a Nurse and she said it was the best that she had worked in. We had a mature part time Nurse at my last employer and she also worked in the ER at Austin part time and said same, one of the few publics that wont kick you out early unless you are fully recovered and right to go.
Its not a given that Private hospitals will treat you any better staff wise but they want to make a dollar out of you therefore will initiate diagnosis/treatment earlier and of course are happy to let you occupy a bed and then give you generous amounts of rehab all in the name of being to able rack up a healthy bill on your insurance.
The worst I have seen is Sunshine Hospital, the Government need to build another public hospital out West and resource it properly, overcrowded, too many rookie staff and the experienced staff are just overworked to the max.
Its a growth area out West and the people deserve better than what they are getting. I'd bang on about the lack of police resources as well but this isnt the thread for it..

They are building Melbournes biggest hospital in Footscray unless I am mistaken.  Will likely link up with VUT to be and education hospital as well.

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(05-05-2021, 07:30 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Fark me a person born every 2 seconds!
Yep thats scary and more scary when you see how those kids end up, seen Hindi kids washing in water direct from a sewage drain and their mothers washing their clothes in the same water further down the line.
Then you look at where they live, the best building in the villages is always the little brick shrine where they worship at.
You look at the Chinese one child policy and how cruelly they enforce it but thats the only way for India.
When I was young I remember reading how the Indian Government tried to encourage the use of condoms and offered vasectomy's free in these sterilization camps to encourage the men they gave them a free transistor radio.
Ended up with a lot of sick Indians, mutilations and zero return in terms of birth control....
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