Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

[PaulP]

A comparison between yesterday's game and the R5 clash is illustrative in my view.

[ElwoodBlues1]

....and not haven't watched any of it, what leads you to single them out???

Have a look at the midfield stats, their mids slaughtered us, too many players who dont pick up their man or chase when
Cripps doesnt make it easy for them,

Dow had 9 for the game,  SPS had 18(mainly cheapies late)...LOB had 17
All the Dogs big name ball winners had plenty of it and I dont know who was playing on Lipinski but the Dogs kid had 27 and kicked 2 goals, he isnt even a regular, one of our lazy players
just left him run around on his own.

We got lucky that the Dogs dont have a forward line and have to scrounge for goals and Charlie had a day out but some of those high end midfield draft picks
are lucky we have nothing in the twos...Setterfield was good and Walsh helped us back in the game so they get a pass.

[Professer E]

Fisher and Dow really worry me.  It's the continuing lack of meaning impact.  Fisher hasn't been the same since Howe broke his leg and Dow...well,  another game where his raw stats are very poor and his disposal remains average at best.  And SOS has stated he would have taken him at one.  I remain unconvinced why.

We need solid,  mature mids badly because these kids aren't giving enough highlights,  let alone any consistency. I'd take solid and reliable over flash any day.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

At this point, we are simply not a stripping team. If we don't get first use, we simply don't have size, smarts, coaching, whatever it is, to force a turnover and regain possession. If the other mob get first use, especially out of the middle, they just move it effortlessly for a shot on goal. We are far too reliant on Cripps and first touch.

Yes, and it’s gonna take more than one pre-season to turn this around.

Similarly with decision-making with ball in hand. My frustration from last night was the number of times we made the wrong binary decision - when we needed to simply get the ball free/forward/over the top we hung on to it and were tackled. Momentum killed when a teammate was in the clear only metres away.

When we needed to hang on to it (no real options close by, nothing opening up down the field) we panicked and coughed it up. So goddam frustrating.

Good luck Mr T.

[Micky0]

Yeah watching them think last night was annoying.  I k ow that sounds weird but watching them weigh up options ultimately lead to them losing possession!

The turnaround to watch live was amazing and exciting.  Now we need a coach that can harness that part and we’ll be amazing.

[capcom]

The one player who consistently disappoints me is Petrevski Seton. 

Lots of class, but 4 quarter endeavour for his talent far below what it should be. 

Lackadaisical

[Micky0]

The one player who consistently disappoints me is Petrevski Seton. 

Lots of class, but 4 quarter endeavour for his talent far below what it should be. 

Lackadaisical

I disagree. Watching live he does try and get in there and when he does get it he usually does something great with it.  He looks taller than I thought too, hopefully can add a bit of strength.

Fish looks good when he’s open.  A few times he disappointed when he wasn’t watching the ball instead was watching his opponent. I feel like he’s been taught that. Hopefully he unlearns it quickly!

[Thryleon]

Our third quarter where we were on top was all Matthew kreuzer.

He took English to town for a quarter after having lowered his colours in the first half.

English lifted in the last.

That was all she wrote.

Our forwards were as bad at locking it in for most of the game as they have been all season aside from that third quarter.

That last run of goals came in junk time after the Bulldogs went 5 goals up.  They hit 15 goals 13 and put the queue in the rack a little too early.

Once we got a run on we stormed back into the game and they rallied and went into a mark kick scenario to kill the momentum and the clock.

People searching for positives will find them.  People searching for negatives will find them.

That wasnt a rmgame we looked like winning for most of it and felt like the north game with one difference.

The Bulldogs are crap and actually turned it over in the third quarter which contributed to us getting back into it.  Typified by caleb Daniel's turnover.


I've seen a trend emerge over the last fortnight.  We are becoming downhill skiers who run harder offensively than they do defensively (backed up by the afl app).  That can be a product of the plan.  It depends on whether or not it requires teams to work harder to attack than defend.  The Bulldogs have the opposite statistic.

[cookie2]

Fisher and Dow really worry me.  It's the continuing lack of meaning impact.  Fisher hasn't been the same since Howe broke his leg and Dow...well,  another game where his raw stats are very poor and his disposal remains average at best.  And SOS has stated he would have taken him at one.  I remain unconvinced why.

We need solid,  mature mids badly because these kids aren't giving enough highlights,  let alone any consistency. I'd take solid and reliable over flash any day.

We've been saying this for a long time and added to that a couple of quick small forwards who can lock the ball in fwd 50, crumb, and snap goals. We'd look a lot better and without them any coach will struggle.

[Baggers]

Work in progress turning the good ship PP onto a new course.

This loss may actually help in disciplining the side to learn to 'clamp' sides when they have the ascendancy. Also quietens the fairy story fans.

What the boys have learned is that they have some serious offensive threats and can score quickly and constantly - two weeks in a row of strong scoring in burst. Just a process now to harness and channel that for more consistency.

I saw far more positives in that game, when viewed as an education in offensive skills/learning, than the few obvious negatives. The strong comebacks were especially positive considering Cripps had little influence.

To me the one glaring negative is, and we all know this, too many runts in the midfield. Just need another big body or two in there to support Cripps.