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[Shakin77]

That's what you get out of that article?

[Lods]

That's what you get out of that article?

Yep
That was his conclusion.
That's his summary
That's his main point.

But all the points he makes have been made.. we're well aware of them and agree with many.

But what's he getting at here....

Their 2017 offseason was instructive. Carlton traded in a 21 year old Matthew Kennedy, 22 year old Darcy Lang, and used free agency and the lesser drafts to backfill depth spots with Aaron Mullett, Cam O’Shea and Matt Shaw.

Now of those players... none are guaranteed to be long term players for us.
It's a strategy, but it could just as easily be a strategy that sucks big time.

Where I have an issue with a piece like this is that it's patronising.
It tells us to just be patient and everything will be OK.
I'll bet "London to a brick" that if we're bottom 4 in 2020 we'll have a new board, a new coach and a new list manager in 2021...and there won't be many Carlton people complaining about that.

[Thryleon]

But what's he getting at here....

Now of those players... none are guaranteed to be long term players for us.
It's a strategy, but it could just as easily be a strategy that sucks big time.

Where I have an issue with a piece like this is that it's patronising.
It tells us to just be patient and everything will be OK.
I'll bet "London to a brick" that if we're bottom 4 in 2020 we'll have a new board, a new coach and a new list manager in 2021...and there won't be many Carlton people complaining about that.

Lods, at the same time, none of those players have quite panned out as expected.  They are playing key roles for us, and are as new to the club and its nuances as the rest, and it could be argued, that we might have seen better from Mullett had Docherty not gone down injured.

O shea has been reasonably ordinary as well.

I think we have entered a perfect storm, and we wont be out of it until at least mid year when our injured blokes start taking the field again.

Lang as an example is very under done, and IMHO, shouldnt be playing this week.  he was cooked and on one leg for most of last week against a physical, yet poor outfit.

[Lods]

Lods, at the same time, none of those players have quite panned out as expected.  They are playing key roles for us, and are as new to the club and its nuances as the rest, and it could be argued, that we might have seen better from Mullett had Docherty not gone down injured.

O shea has been reasonably ordinary as well.

I think we have entered a perfect storm, and we wont be out of it until at least mid year when our injured blokes start taking the field again.

Lang as an example is very under done, and IMHO, shouldnt be playing this week.  he was cooked and on one leg for most of last week against a physical, yet poor outfit.

Those players may all turn out to be excellent pickups for us.
But 'patience' wont be the key to that.
It will be hard work, good planning and development.... and a lot of luck with injuries etc.

The point I'm making is there are no guarantees.
And I'm getting a little sick of the Nostradmaus types who say we should just shut up, sit back and let it happen.

I don't mind "following the path" but if we get led across a muddy creek rather than going over the bridge, it's probably not unreasonable to question why we didn't use the bridge...and there might genuinely be a good reason.
That's what discussion forums are for.

[Thryleon]

See my point is that I want an explanation of what bridge everyone else seems to have been looking for.

There was no bridge. 

[kruddler]

See my point is that I want an explanation of what bridge everyone else seems to have been looking for.

There was no bridge.

We may not have got to the bridge yet. But to not bother looking for it, we are potentially doing ourselves an incredible injustice.

[Thryleon]

We may not have got to the bridge yet. But to not bother looking for it, we are potentially doing ourselves an incredible injustice.

So you're saying instead of building a bridge we should see if someone has built one for us to use??

Let's face it, the club has decided that they're building a bridge and whilst they're doing the foundation work they are having a few issues. 

It might not be on time it might be expensive but they are intending to build a bridge a d don't seem worried about everyone who's telling them they are doing it wrong.

I'm fine with that but you can't knock the finished product when all your doing is looking at how they're building it.

[kruddler]

So you're saying instead of building a bridge we should see if someone has built one for us to use??

Let's face it, the club has decided that they're building a bridge and whilst they're doing the foundation work they are having a few issues. 

It might not be on time it might be expensive but they are intending to build a bridge a d don't seem worried about everyone who's telling them they are doing it wrong.

I'm fine with that but you can't knock the finished product when all your doing is looking at how they're building it.

You are missing the point.

There may be a tree fallen over that creates a bridge. Its not looking for someone else to build us one.

If we keep on the same path, head down, looking at where we put our next foot and continue on this path we will get to where we need to get too.....eventually.
However, if every now and then we stop, have a look around and evaluate our path and if it is the best one we can be taking, we might find that there is a better option along the way.

BUT, if we don't look, we don't find.

No harm in looking for a bridge. If none present itself, then on we trudge doing what we are doing.

[Peter Brady]

So you're saying instead of building a bridge we should see if someone has built one for us to use??

Let's face it, the club has decided that they're building a bridge and whilst they're doing the foundation work they are having a few issues. 

It might not be on time it might be expensive but they are intending to build a bridge a d don't seem worried about everyone who's telling them they are doing it wrong.

I'm fine with that but you can't knock the finished product when all your doing is looking at how they're building it.

Sometimes it is better to say something ;D

[LP]

To progress the lines of communication have to be very clear.

Like the time my wife came home with one of these;

[img width=150]https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e4/1f/b2/e41fb27a2edc2b9ff689c3b77e468a44.jpg[/img]

She'd completely misunderstood! ;D