2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood

[kruddler]

Contention: Casboult is a leader.

Explanation: He has been in the AFL system for a long time, is an older player in AFL terms.

Comparison: Jake Stringer, Kurt Tippett, Jack Watts

Conclusion: Bollocks. Plenty of senior players are not role models. Most get moved on, but nobody wanted Casboult.

Every argument based on the above contention is therefor deemed null and void as initial contention is incorrect.

Here end the lesson.

[LP]

Contention: Casboult is a leader.

Explanation: He has been in the AFL system for a long time, is an older player in AFL terms.

Comparison: Jake Stringer, Kurt Tippett, Jack Watts

Conclusion: Bollocks. Plenty of senior players are not role models. Most get moved on, but nobody wanted Casboult.

Every argument based on the above contention is therefor deemed null and void as initial contention is incorrect.

Here end the lesson.

So a Role model is a Leader? :o

btw., Who used the "Leader" word in the Casboult context, if I did feel free to link to it!

Any argument based on the above contention is therefor deemed null and void as initial contention that a role model is a leader is incorrect. A role model may be a leader, but they are not dependent terms even if they had been mutually stated. Here endeth the lesson.

PS; I think what you have offered is technically called an Ambiguity of Cross Reference, or it may be a Lexical Ambiguity like a Polysemy, it's all Greek to me! ;D

[kruddler]

So a Role model is a Leader? :o

btw., Who used the "Leader" word in the Casboult context, if I did feel free to link to it!

Any argument based on the above contention is therefor deemed null and void as initial contention that a role model is a leader is incorrect. A role model may be a leader, but they are not dependent terms even if they had been mutually stated. Here endeth the lesson.

PS; I think what you have offered is technically called an Ambiguity of Cross Reference.

role model, leader
potayto, potahto

[LP]

role model, leader
potayto, potahto

Really?

So I take it you didn't find the "Leader" word anywhere in the recent threads, but you'll claim you didn't bother looking! ;D

[kruddler]

Really?

So I take it you didn't find the "Leader" word anywhere in the recent threads, but you'll claim you didn't bother looking! ;D

I've read all the recent threads for the day, basically at once. You were b!tch!ng about casboult in all of them. I don't take note of who says what word first and what not.

If you wanna get pedantic about the difference between a leader and a role model in relation to casboult you are simply deflecting and conceding.

Point stands. I will not be drawn on the nomenclature.

[laj]

Lamb is rarely bad, but he's also rarely good, he's another in between player too good for the VFL and not good enough for the seniors.
We've had plenty of them in the recent past, better to give young O'Brien or Jack Silvagni a game in my opinion, they at least have the potential to become competent senior players.

One of those "good for depth" players. Someone you can bring in and will at least be ok.

[blue4life]

One of those "good for depth" players. Someone you can bring in and will at least be ok.

Except that at Carlton he's in our best 22.

[LP]

Point stands. I will not be drawn on the nomenclature.

I didn't realise role model was nomenclature for a leader, Hitler was a leader wasn't he, and Churchill too! :o

One in the same, role models and leaders?

Kruddler, there was no argument to make your point against, you have constructed an absurdity. Still it does stand except only as a point against something that never existed!

[flyboy77]

Except that at Carlton he's in our best 22.

Not once Pickett and Lang are back...

He doesn't do enough, consistently in my book. Like his niggle, but more needed!

That said if we're getting belted in the guts bit hard for the forwards to shine.... though the I50 count suggested something else was awry last weekend.

[deags]

It's something Ive commented about consistently, but our forwards dont work hard enough off the ball. I watched them a couple of times when the ball was in our half forward area and no one was leading, no one was positioning themselves or looking to provide blocks. Stationary, waiting for the ball to drop in their vicinity. Not good enough. A lot of people blame the mids for our poor entry into our forward line, I blame the forwards for not working hard enough.