2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond

[LP]

And the windpipe crushers would become the chicken wing (that applies to CFC but nobody thereafter) :-\

We joke about this, especially when I post because I've been tagged by a few as a conspiracy theorist, but in recent weeks there have been some clear examples that other posters have highlighted.

It should be a joke, but it isn't!

[bratblue]

I wasn't particularly disappointed with our performance on Thursday night, beating the reigning premiers was always going to be a tough ask even after kicking the first 5 goals. I knew the tiggers were eventually going to wake up and when they did, their bigger and more seasoned bodies bullied their way back into the game. Nevertheless, a good effort and heaps of positives to take away.

I’ll start off by saying that Prince Charles is going to be something special, most of us already know this but I wasn’t expecting such a dominant performance so early in his career. Kennedy did some good things during his time on the ground, I think he can fill the Gibbs void. Cripps was in beast mode all night, didn’t know he was such a good contested mark but needs to work on his decision making and disposal (missed a sitter during a crucial stage of the game). I thought captain Murphy was inspirational and fearless at times, Daisy was excellent and performances like this will be invaluable for the youngsters, Marchbank was sensational in the backline with a some inspiring intercept marks, Liam Jones continues to impress and should of been awarded at least one free kick for being tunnelled twice, the ageless Simpson was solid as usual and Garlett was brilliant and will be our best recruit this season.

Now for the critics on the night and one in particular was when the tiggers finally woke up (after being awarded a free goal by the umpires), we should of focused on stopping their momentum by slowing down the tempo but we continued to play a fast, counter-attacking style (inexperience maybe?) that resulted in turnovers and goals. Weltering, Silvagni and Casboult all had shockers and should consider themselves lucky if they aren't dropped. Having said that, was Casboult used as a decoy to take Rance out of the game? 

Really need to beat the Suns next week otherwise these positives will be quickly forgotten.

Brownlow votes should look like this;
3 Dustin Martin (only because they won)  - 2 Patrick Cripps (BOG) - 1 Charlie Curnow

Go Blues.

Good post.

[Professer E]

Martin wasn't best on ground, other than that, totally agree.

[Jack Burton]

Cripps was best on ground, but would not be even slightly surprised if Dusty gets the 3 Brownlow votes

[shawny]

Martin wasn't best on ground, other than that, totally agree.

If you giving votes purely on stats then Crippa gets the 3 votes.

If you give to the most damaging player on the ground then Martin get it.

His touches hurt the opposition as its usually forward of centre so many of them, result in a lot of scoring. Cripps was amazing in an undermanned midfield - won the contested ball time and time again but as much as it pains me to admit it Martin is more damaging of the 2 players.

Still love our boy but 

[jeza]

Whoever was on Rance - sometime cas sometimes Jack immediately went to the goal square. He only had 3 marks and 15 pos and wasn't really a factor in the game.

If they lost Martin they miss finals. Not just his possessions but all those B graders in their team gain confidence off him.

[LP]

If you giving votes purely on stats then Crippa gets the 3 votes.

Cripps got a heap of footy but wasted a fair bit of it, yet he was clearly our best.

I don't think there was a clear BoG, but Dusty and Cripps are probably the two front runners. We shouldn't deny just how good Martin is in contested football, we rave about Cripps working inside, Martin is just as good if not better when one on one.

We need blokes to aspire to it, not deny it!

It looks like modern tactics are going to result in players racking up possessions, but that won't always mean they are BoG. If Charlie had kicked those five goals without the 50m penalty assistance he'd probably be a clear BoG.

[sydneybluesfan]

Martin had 20 kicks and I can hardly remember him missing a target. Cripps rarely gets the ball in open space, but in general play his kicking is no where near as accurate or creative as Dusty.

He had 13 score involvements - Cripps had 4. There's your answer there in terms of impact. he was also very influential in the last qtr.

I have no love for Dusty but he has turned himself into a very good footballer. His foot skills and kicking penetration is better than any other midfielder.

I think we all need to remember that we have lost 2 of our top 5 players from last years list - this is a massive hole in skills and experience that we just can't fill overnight. We got beaten in the i50's by 24 and lost the tackle count by 20, and they had 16 more scoring shots. On any normal day that would lead to a 10-12 goal belting. There were some highly encouraging individual performances, but equally a bunch of really poor performances as well. Mullet and Bryne are both huge worries for me at this point.

[LoveNavy]

I wasn't particularly disappointed with our performance on Thursday night, beating the reigning premiers was always going to be a tough ask even after kicking the first 5 goals. I knew the tiggers were eventually going to wake up and when they did, their bigger and more seasoned bodies bullied their way back into the game. Nevertheless, a good effort and heaps of positives to take away.

I’ll start off by saying that Prince Charles is going to be something special, most of us already know this but I wasn’t expecting such a dominant performance so early in his career. Kennedy did some good things during his time on the ground, I think he can fill the Gibbs void. Cripps was in beast mode all night, didn’t know he was such a good contested mark but needs to work on his decision making and disposal (missed a sitter during a crucial stage of the game). I thought captain Murphy was inspirational and fearless at times, Daisy was excellent and performances like this will be invaluable for the youngsters, Marchbank was sensational in the backline with a some inspiring intercept marks, Liam Jones continues to impress and should of been awarded at least one free kick for being tunnelled twice, the ageless Simpson was solid as usual and Garlett was brilliant and will be our best recruit this season.

Now for the critics on the night and one in particular was when the tiggers finally woke up (after being awarded a free goal by the umpires), we should of focused on stopping their momentum by slowing down the tempo but we continued to play a fast, counter-attacking style (inexperience maybe?) that resulted in turnovers and goals. Weltering, Silvagni and Casboult all had shockers and should consider themselves lucky if they aren't dropped. Having said that, was Casboult used as a decoy to take Rance out of the game? 

Really need to beat the Suns next week otherwise these positives will be quickly forgotten.

Brownlow votes should look like this;
3 Dustin Martin (only because they won)  - 2 Patrick Cripps (BOG) - 1 Charlie Curnow

Go Blues.

Good post Yark

For mine there's one point of difference.
With or without my Navy glasses, Crippa was BOG and should get 3 Brownlow votes. I know votes are biased heavily towards the winning side.

Not sure if this is a standard that umpires apply. Comments invited from our gurus O:-)

[BlueAvenger]

Agree mostly Sbf, but Mullet was a free hit and a decent kick. Handy depth at best and don't worry about Casey Byrne, the kid will be alright. Just needs to pick and choose when he defends and attacks a little better. I personally think he was trying too hard and not playing his natural game.

When he plays on instinct and relaxes a little more and gains some confidence in the ones he won't be getting complained about.