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JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday
(02-28-2018, 11:23 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:i'd play him on Rance.

Fair enough, dont mind that idea....
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I think that young Harry's efforts tonight confirmed what his form in the NBs and in his two previous games suggested; he can play.  However, he needs to be able to string several games together to adjust to the tempo and pressure.  The last thing I would do is drop him and play Weitering forward.

Marchbank was outstanding tonight and Plowman wasn't far behind.  With Weitering, we have three defenders who can match up on a tall forward, play up the ground and provide run through the midfield.  There's no reason why we can't play all three, and Jones, in defence and up the ground.

Dow definitely looks the goods and O'Brien will be better for the experience.  Kennedy was quieter than I was expecting but his hardness at the contest was promising. Garlett flashed in and out but the tackle that ended his night was a highlight.

Kreuzer and Cripps both made good on their desire to be more effective in the forward 50 and both were in good form around the ground.  Casboult was very good as back up to Kreuzer and I think that he will be a major beneficiary if McKay and Charlie Curnow continue to improve.

Cuningham was good, as was Fisher, and it's good to see their development progressing.

Finally, anyone who thinks Ed Curnow won't be one of the first players picked for round 1 has rocks in their head  Smile
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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The positive thing for me is that we need to squeeze a few lesser performers out by R1.  Looking at the stats sheet we only played 24, so it looks like Samo & Weiters were not replaced, which is interesting in itself.  To get them back in we need to take out 4.

I can only think of 3 easy outs, being Lamb, Mullett & O'Brien.  Pickett & Garlett only got half a dozen touches each (Garlett injured of course), but Pickett looks very dangerous, and his upside is huge, so he's got to stay in.  Someone will be unlucky.

My favourite thing though was the interview with Cripps.  The boys wanted to win, JLT or not.  That's the guts of everything right there.  If these boys can get some ruthlessness and desire to win about them, then we're onto something.  If not, they may as well play social footy.
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Weiters will play CHB, where Marchbank played tonight.
Marchbank becomes the 3rd tall, Plowden the 4th, both can probably play small when required, and effectively Weiters pushes Mullet out of the team. That's how I see it anyway.

I thought Byrne played the most Docheryesque type of game.
He took the game on at every opportunity and while it didn't always work out,  he gave it a good go!

Dow is a ripper and will contribute from round 1. LOB needs to work on a few things but could still get some game time.

I liked what I saw of Kennedy, I just didn't see enough of it, but I'm sure he'll improve.

Garlett will be ripper. Him, Picket & SPS will be an absolute joy to watch for years to come!

We didn't kick 100 points but we had 9 goal scorers and 4 of those kicked multiple's, that's what we will want to see every week.
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

Navy, it's not just a color, it's an attitude !!!
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(02-28-2018, 11:17 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Who would you play Weitering on vs Richmond, given Jones will most likely get Riewoldt and the other Richmond Forwards will
of the small to mid mobile pressure types? Butler, Costanga, Caddy, Rioli, Edwards, Lambert etc, Martin....?

Rance.

Edit:
Jesus, I’ve just read that I’m in agreement with fly about something... ????
????????
Hope there’s a replay available tomorrow, Go Blues !
Let’s go BIG !
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(02-28-2018, 11:37 AM)DJC link Wrote:I think that young Harry's efforts tonight confirmed what his form in the NBs and in his two previous games suggested; he can play.  However, he needs to be able to string several games together to adjust to the tempo and pressure.  The last thing I would do is drop him and play Weitering forward.

Marchbank was outstanding tonight and Plowman wasn't far behind.  With Weitering, we have three defenders who can match up on a tall forward, play up the ground and provide run through the midfield.  There's no reason why we can't play all three, and Jones, in defence and up the ground.

Dow definitely looks the goods and O'Brien will be better for the experience.  Kennedy was quieter than I was expecting but his hardness at the contest was promising. Garlett flashed in and out but the tackle that ended his night was a highlight.

Kreuzer and Cripps both made good on their desire to be more effective in the forward 50 and both were in good form around the ground.  Casboult was very good as back up to Kreuzer and I think that he will be a major beneficiary if McKay and Charlie Curnow continue to improve.

Cuningham was good, as was Fisher, and it's good to see their development progressing.

Finally, anyone who thinks Ed Curnow won't be one of the first players picked for round 1 has rocks in their head  Smile

Ed would want to use the ball a lot better than he did tonight if he wants to stay in the team long term.

Mullet was one of our worst tonight I thought. Byrne was very good. Simmo also. Probably one small defender short as with Weit coming back we're very tall down back.
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Still a question mark over Weitering for mine. His 2016 season was top shelf, but his 2017 season was ordinary. Yes, I know he's young, but if you take away his No1 ranking, his form last season was very concerning. In fact, if I had to pick one thing that saddened me the most about our 2017 season, it was Jacob's drop off. I'm not sure if he was injured, 2nd year blues, mental issues etc.
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And I'm not sure that Weeters on Rance is a great idea. If he is, as I suspect, down on form, and down on confidence, why make him the sacrificial lamb and play him on the best fullback in the league, a bloke who is more mobile, more experienced, more wily ?

We should mix it up with Rance. Play smalls and talls on him (e.g Wright / Levi/Harry Mac), sometimes double team him. We don't have anyone that is an ideal match up, so mixing it up may unsettle him, and also lessen the impact on any one player, since the pain is shared.
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(02-28-2018, 08:14 PM)PaulP link Wrote:And I'm not sure that Weeters on Rance is a great idea. If he is, as I suspect, down on form, and down on confidence, why make him the sacrificial lamb and play him on the best fullback in the league, a bloke who is more mobile, more experienced, more wily ?

.....Because he's done it before Wink

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/1/carl-v-rich

Quote:Young gun Jacob Weitering played exclusively as a forward and kicked three goals in an entertaining battle with star defender Alex Rance,

Is he down on form and confidence?
His last month of last season was pretty solid after a down period during the middle part of the year.

There is no doubt he should play back.
That's where he's at his best.
But if the argument is that there is no place for him in defence due to "team balance" there then he's more than capable of playing forward.
Bottom line is.... he plays  Big Grin

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Weitering is a major concern, can’t be selected because of team balance, should be traded & has mental issues?

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