Carlton v GWS-Post Match thread

[kruddler]

Agree. So far Hendo has only shown himself to be an avearge footslogger at best, far from an onfield general and leader IMO.

Sometimes i wonder how much worse a player looks when he is playing in a $hit side, like us.

There was quite a few people who used to have a crack at Kennedy back in the day saying he would never amount to much. Put him in a good side and look what happens. Hendo is a lot better than what we have seen of late....we will see this when he ends up wearing different colours.

[LP]

Sometimes i wonder how much worse a player looks when he is playing in a $hit side, like us.

There was quite a few people who used to have a crack at Kennedy back in the day saying he would never amount to much. Put him in a good side and look what happens. Hendo is a lot better than what we have seen of late....we will see this when he ends up wearing different colours.

Players choose how much effort they make, Barker has been stating this week after week, they write their own destiny!

[cimm1979]

I love the way so many on here are trying to make out that Bolton is now regretting taking the job and is shocked by what he saw. We had 26 players to chose from and played like it. Cripps and Kreuzer were possibly the only 2 players in our top 10 that were playing.

I'd wager plenty on the fact that he's champing at the bit to get his hands on the list and move it in the right direction.

next time we play GWS we will have about 10 different guys playing.

[kruddler]

Players choose how much effort they make, Barker has been stating this week after week, they write their own destiny!

I've got no issue with this, and have defended the selection of Ellard on numerous occasions because "at least he brings effort".

However, everyone has their breaking point. There is only so many times you can lead and get the ball kicked over your head or to the advantage of the opposition before it gets to you. There is only so many times that you can get thumped by 10 goals before you lose your enthusiasm and 'bounce in your step' that you might've had otherwise.

I'm not saying i accept it, but i understand it.

Players are not enjoying their football, that is clear for all to see.

[kruddler]

Cripps and Kreuzer were possibly the only 2 players in our top 10 that were playing.

I think you are overestimating the strength of our list.

I'll grant you Murphy+Gibbs....then it gets tricky.
Throw in Judd if you want, but he's gone. Ditto Carrazzo.

Thomas?
Casboult?

I reckon Simpson and Docherty are clearly top 10.

You can argue all day about the rest, Jamo? Yazz? Menzel? Tuohy? Everitt? White?

I think we had a much stronger list than we would like to admit.
They had more players out than simply their best ruck, mid and losing griffen as well. No Patton as well is a big hole to fill.

Their seconds side could probably beat us unfortunately.

[cookie2]

I love the way so many on here are trying to make out that Bolton is now regretting taking the job and is shocked by what he saw. We had 26 players to chose from and played like it. Cripps and Kreuzer were possibly the only 2 players in our top 10 that were playing.

I'd wager plenty on the fact that he's champing at the bit to get his hands on the list and move it in the right direction.

I think there's a bit of tongue in cheek involved! 

[crashlander]

Players choose how much effort they make, Barker has been stating this week after week, they write their own destiny!

And he was particularly blunt about it this week. If that doesn't get through a few heads, well, they won't be there in 2016 to worry about it.

[blue4life]

Cripps and Kreuzer were possibly the only 2 players in our top 10 that were playing.

Jamison, Simpson and Bell are definitely in our top 10, probably Tuohy and Curnow as well and Yarran for certain until his form slump.
Thomas, Gibbs, Murphy and Carrazzo were missing which leaves 6 who weren't.

[LoveNavy]

We have been without Judd, Thomas, Carrazzo, Casboult, Henderson, Murphy and Gibbs also which doesn't help. Not making excuses though. We had more players that impact a game missing than GWS did.

Further, this reduces on field leadership/skill, increasing responsibility for the few seniors. In turn, the likes of Walsh & co. have to hit the ground running prematurely. Given all the outs and off field struggles, I think they did as well as could be expected. This is not to say there weren't some passengers - we all spotted them. Of course, those blokes will no doubt soon be part of the history book.

[blue4life]

Of course, those blokes will no doubt soon be part of the history book.

True, but effort alone isn't enough.
Tutt and Dick gave it everything they had yesterday but their foot skills are awful, do we retain them and keep playing them because they have a red hot crack?