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VFL Round #6: Northern Blues vs Essendon
#21
(05-23-2015, 10:49 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Doesn't need to be a saviour. Just needs to play 100+ games of good football.
Unfortunately Karroto, the mail I have is that he won't be getting a game anytime soon. Not regarded AFL level and has been told as much by one of the assistants. An assistant who has been bandied about as a potential replacement for Mick. Only what I've heard.
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(05-24-2015, 12:55 AM)rocky link Wrote:Unfortunately Karroto, the mail I have is that he won't be getting a game anytime soon. Not regarded AFL level and has been told as much by one of the assistants. An assistant who has been bandied about as a potential replacement for Mick. Only what I've heard.
Wow if that's the case what does it say for the rest of them, he is one of the leading lights ins NBs
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#23
Why is our VFL team playing on a Sunday befor an interstate Friday game? Players selected from the VFL to cover injuries or dropped players will not have had an adequate preparation.
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#24
[quote author=Robblues link=topic=2133.msg108249#msg108249 date=1432429971]
Wow if that's the case what does it say for the rest of them.

It says it all.
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#25
(05-24-2015, 12:55 AM)rocky link Wrote:Not regarded AFL level and has been told as much by one of the assistants.
I'm shocked.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#26
(05-24-2015, 08:39 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I'm shocked.

You shouldn't be, several of us on the forum have been posting for sometime about the poor development of our players.

They go back to the NBs and go backwards at a rapid rate, we never have players coming into the AFL in red hot form, it just never happens. Our development coaches are oxygen and confidence thieves, stealing a living from our club and retaining their jobs by finger-pointing at the very players that they are supposed to be encouraging, developing and teaching!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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#27
(05-24-2015, 12:55 AM)rocky link Wrote:Unfortunately Karroto, the mail I have is that he won't be getting a game anytime soon. Not regarded AFL level and has been told as much by one of the assistants. An assistant who has been bandied about as a potential replacement for Mick. Only what I've heard.

Surely not. Graham is not getting a game simply because big bad mick plays favourites. Once we slay the big meanie weanie coach everything will magically turn around and we'll become a juggernaut again.

At least that's what i'm lead to believe by many on here.  :-\

Perhaps Mick doesn't play the kid because he isn't good enough. Radical thinking i know.
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#28
(05-24-2015, 09:06 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Perhaps Mick doesn't play the kid because he isn't good enough. Radical thinking i know.

It's just not feasible that given the amount testing done on players at pre-draft camps that we could have such a poor success rate.

Many of these kids have already past a number of significant tests just to get to the testing stage, and are then rated highly enough to be draft picks not just rookies, yet the vast majority of them fail at Carlton. It's untenable that so many are purely spuds, coaching must be contributing to the problem!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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#29
(05-24-2015, 09:06 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Surely not. Graham is not getting a game simply because big bad mick plays favourites. Once we slay the big meanie weanie coach everything will magically turn around and we'll become a juggernaut again.

At least that's what i'm lead to believe by many on here.  :-\

Perhaps Mick doesn't play the kid because he isn't good enough. Radical thinking i know.

Mick does know a fair bit about playing blokes who are not good enough.....played Warnock in place of Carrazzo vs Geelong..both radical, illogical and unsuccessful, recalled Liam Jones after he slayed them in the NB's??..not....another master stroke of success...not
Graham's form has warranted a decent run at senior level by any normal person's rationale...
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#30
(05-24-2015, 09:14 AM)LP link Wrote:It's just not feasible that given the amount testing done on players at pre-draft camps that we could have such a poor success rate.

Many of these kids have already past a number of significant tests just to get to the testing stage, and are then rated highly enough to be draft picks not just rookies, yet the vast majority of them fail at Carlton. It's untenable that so many are purely spuds, coaching must be contributing to the problem!

Not doubting any of that. I've said for a long time that development is a big problem at our club.....this extends well before Mick arrived.

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