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[Lods]

Why wasn't this thread just rolled into the existing one under Fire Sale?

Fair question....and probably an opportunity to just give a bit of an explanation as to how these things work.

The initial purpose of this thread is  different to the "fire sale thread".....which is about list issues. (what they're worth, the approach we take with folk who want to leave, issues between players)
That's why it's in theCommittee room.

This one is supposedly more concerned with looking at the environment we've created and why it's not conducive to keeping players.
It's a club cultural issue which is why it's in the Bluebloods bar

But as often happens the lines become blurred and 'list issues' turn into board arguments which seems to have happened in the "Fire sale" thread.

Now threads really have a mind of their own.
They go where discussion leads them.
When two threads develop similar lines of discussion one usually ends up dominant and the other dies.
If they continue on a similar path over a number of days the option to merge is always there.....but we usually give threads a little time to find their direction and points of difference before this happens

We can redirect discussion back to the topic, or we can merge or split threads...but these are really time consuming activities.
What you see on the forum doesn't always reflect the amount of work behind the scenes on these tasks and it's often more practical to just let threads go until interest is lost, rather than merging and locking a topic.

As has been highlighted before, there is a bit of responsibility on the individual poster to make sure they stay with the topic and the general message behind an opening post.

Board arguments and Malthouse/Ratten discussions are usually enough to drag any topic away from its original purpose so watch those ones in particular.

So in terms of this thread....here's the topic

We appear to be experiencing something of a player "exodus".

The question is, why are these players wanting to leave ??

What has the club done to bring it to this ??

Is it a a cumulative result of very poor player management over a long period of time ??

Are there others planning to jump ship too but are waiting for the right time to say so ??

Is our club so 'on the nose' that no-one wants to come here ??

What needs to happen administratively to turn this around before it becomes a calamity ??

[kruddler]

Lods....you can ask different questions, but sometimes the answers are the same. Hence, end up discussing the same things in different threads.

[PaulP]

Lods....you can ask different questions, but sometimes the answers are the same. Hence, end up discussing the same things in different threads.

Yes, usually Ratts v Malthouse, crap board, culture, recruiting, development etc.

Most of the threads started by Sheik are variations on the "soul searching" theme.

EDIT : and BTW, Exodus is a terrific album.

[Professer E]

I believe its actually the second chapter in a famous book.

[Lods]

Lods....you can ask different questions, but sometimes the answers are the same. Hence, end up discussing the same things in different threads.

That's true
The answers are the same in some peoples opinions.... but we need to consider different points of view.
Some people might have different answers.

For some the board may be behind players wanting to leave
For others it might be a fractured playing group

Where they want to go, and how they get there and what we get for them is a different topic.

You know as well as I do that threads go where they want to go.
The strong survive, the weak ones don't and die.

It may be worth merging this one and the fire sale....but lets give it more than a day or two.

If no-one wants to discuss it then it will die.
But lets not bog it down on a discussion of logistics or I'll have to split it.

[Lods]

Just moved the discussion in here from the Exodus thread.

[kruddler]

please delete

[kruddler]

caught up in split

[age]

Just stop Sheik from starting threads.  Problem Solved. 

[northernblue]

Just stop Sheik from starting threads.  Problem Solved. 

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