Where do you think Carlton will finish in 2017?

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Same. You can't pass up a once-in-a-generation player when they say they want to come to our club.

The theory re Gibbs as I have read, is that our backline was so bad at kicking that Scotto, Yazz and and Gibbs had to be played there to get any kind of rebound happening. Don't know if it's true.

Personally, I wouldn't give a rats ar5e about the HBFs! I'd put any old blokes like Treacle, Molasses and Corn Syrup in the midfield as long as they could get the stoppage ball out to the likes Judd, Scotland, Murphy, Garlett, Betts, Armfield or Yarran I don't care!

The sad thing is, I think Ratten was the best midfield coach we've had since the Parkin / Briton days. But he never really got the rest of the field sorted as he probably needed it. We won stoppage after stoppage, not just as a result of Judd because we won them without Judd playing. I suppose in hindsight we know there were many issues around Fev, Yarran, O'hAilpin, Cloke, Garlett, Robinson, etc., etc and a bit of club politics as well.