Where do you think Carlton will finish in 2017?

[PaulP]

It's an old club, full of old men and their old ways!

But I'm confident it's changing which is why I changed my message signature.

But like a misbehaving high performance car, I can still detect the odd misfire as it accelerates, and I see the old-time mechanic standing on the sidelines with a hammer ready to lightly tap the carburetor or the distributor, even though it's a fuel injected beast with all electronic ignition!

Hmm, notwithstanding your analogy, I hope the change is in full effect.