2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

[IvanAwfulbigone]

I am a hater.
When we invest THE best draft pick on a guy that says 8 years later he has not really put the most he has into his career then yes I hate.
He performs exactly as he says, like he is just happy to be an AFL footballer.
I do not believe that is the type of player you want mentoring your elite talent.
If you believe the young guys don't hear and see that lack of 100% commitment then there is something wrong.
Gibbs and Murphy have had a huge opportunity to take the club forward but it simply hasn't happened.

I believe they both had terrible role models at Carlton and their careers have suffered accordingly.

Let's move em on at years end and start with a new group

Amen brother, well said.

The whole internet "haters" concept is tricky when it comes to topics one is passionate about. I can truly say when the team runs out at the beginning of every match that I LOVE and admire every player for choosing to, and having the ability to play for my beloved Blues - something I was never talented enough to do.  Don't think I've ever hated a player (except Franchina  ).  I admit to developing a strong dislike for Fevola yet I would still turn up week after week and "oooh" and "ahhh" along with the rest of us.

I think Murphy has had an incredibly unlucky run. When you read his career progression on Wiki it becomes apparent how, every time he was hitting his straps, he'd suffer a major injury.

I also think the game has changed markedly since he was recruited - and I think this points to a major flaw with Carlton's recruiting strategy.  There are smaller players going around (e.g. Dahlhaus, Puopolo) but they're quicker by hand and/or demon tacklers and/or strong overhead.  We seem not to have taken into consideration how quickly the game can change and blindly choose the seemingly 'best pedigreed' player on paper.  Gibbs is a prime example of this viz a viz the Kernahan connection.  While Hawthorn was picking up gangly colts with raking left feet or cherry picking dour, miserly defenders with specific roles in mind, we were content to take the easy option of taking the number 1 junior player as judged by so-called 'experts'  :  It was a lazy strategy - one which gave the recruiters an easy 'out'. Remember that ad - "no-one ever got fired for choosing IBM".

To say Gibbs and Murphy have been consistently among our best players for 10 years is really highlighting the fact that double nothing is still nothing.