Bryce Gibbs & Marc Murphy

[jeza]

I don't agree quite so much on Gibbs. I think he actually shows some passion / intent (though not to the level of a Selwood, etc.). Tackles much better these days than he did in his youth and does contribute deep into the final quarter even when the game is lost. Still too much going missing when the heat is on though when we really want our leaders to stand up and cut the crap when things are running against us.

Murphy on the other hand... I can't find much to defend him. You cannot hide a player in your midfield who won't tackle. Particularly with the style Bolton is trying to play which is all about fierce competing and pressure. I understand the issues with his shoulders aren't really his fault but it is reality and right now I don't think we're acknowledging the reality of the situation. Your captain is sitting there asking his team to be desperate and give everything for the cause but it's a bit of a "do as I say not as I do" situation which is cancerous.

We won't ever move forward properly until he's gone. He could have some trade value to a GWS for example which could help set up our next premiership team.

As to the language used in this thread - I'd have less of an issue with this than the one where individuals line up to write off young players before the season even starts. That is truly embarrassing to read.