JLT game 3

[PaulP]

The bold part is right.

I wanted Mick to fix the culture and thought he had enough 'c*nt' about him to force change up and down the hierarchy at the club and enough runs on the board to have the respect required. This was on the back of the rookie coach favourite son who simply didn't have the experience. We were still in "we are carlton f*ck the rest" mode and we needed a culture shock.

I never blamed ratten for the culture.
Denis Pagan however......  >

As i said, i was a fan of Ratten. He did wonders from where he got the club. His only issue was inexperience in both coaching/tactics and inexperience in setting up a club for long term success (partially not his problem, but could have helped).

Ratten as our coach now would be better than Ratten as our coach back then.

Well, thank you for clarifying that. I can honestly say I never would have got that impression from reading your posts.

To those who are complaining about the occasional ex-coach dust ups that occur, I can appreciate that this may be a PITA, but please also understand that in terms of recent events, this is an issue which fiercely divides CFC supporters, and arouses strong passions and opinions for good reason.

Perhaps the mods may consider setting up an all encompassing Mick/Ratts thread, in some deep dark corner of the CSC site.