03-05-2017, 12:15 AM
At one stage in the past(2008) our ruck list read like this;
Cloke, Kreuzer ......Hampson ........A. O'hAilpin
++ Ackland, S. O'hAilpin
Keep in mind we didn't need hybrid Ruck/KPFs, we had Fevola and Waite holding down KPs with support from Setanta and Ackland.
We added Jacobs to that list at the end of 2009 when Aisake left and we de-listed Ackland. The list still looked good and had some depth.
now it's,
Kreuzer..........Phillips......................?????
++ Casboult, Gorringe, Rowe, McKay(Just a baby)
It's pretty feeble, and has no depth.
Back in 2008, Kreuzer and Ackland were the equivalent of Phillips but we cannot say Casboult and Gorringe come even close to being useful 2nd or 3rd ruck options. Cloke held his own in 2008 as 1st Ruck, with Kreuzer as significant support!
Casboult and Gorringe won't support Kreuzer much at all in the absence of Phillips which leaves Rowe!
We haven't taken the ruck seriously for almost a decade now, but you won't win finals without a serious ruck division, even more so now the 3rd man up is kiboshed. Yet I still read posters claiming we have too many rucks.
We don't have too many rucks as you well know because Casboult and Gorring are miles away from being serious ruck options, they are basically below average KPFs that squeeze their way into the side by doubling as a very poor chop out for the 1st rucks.
Cloke, Kreuzer ......Hampson ........A. O'hAilpin
++ Ackland, S. O'hAilpin
Keep in mind we didn't need hybrid Ruck/KPFs, we had Fevola and Waite holding down KPs with support from Setanta and Ackland.
We added Jacobs to that list at the end of 2009 when Aisake left and we de-listed Ackland. The list still looked good and had some depth.
now it's,
Kreuzer..........Phillips......................?????
++ Casboult, Gorringe, Rowe, McKay(Just a baby)
It's pretty feeble, and has no depth.
Back in 2008, Kreuzer and Ackland were the equivalent of Phillips but we cannot say Casboult and Gorringe come even close to being useful 2nd or 3rd ruck options. Cloke held his own in 2008 as 1st Ruck, with Kreuzer as significant support!
Casboult and Gorringe won't support Kreuzer much at all in the absence of Phillips which leaves Rowe!
We haven't taken the ruck seriously for almost a decade now, but you won't win finals without a serious ruck division, even more so now the 3rd man up is kiboshed. Yet I still read posters claiming we have too many rucks.
We don't have too many rucks as you well know because Casboult and Gorring are miles away from being serious ruck options, they are basically below average KPFs that squeeze their way into the side by doubling as a very poor chop out for the 1st rucks.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"