(08-09-2016, 07:43 PM)sandsmere link Wrote:Kreuzer and Phillips are not great key forwards, but they are certainly better forwards than Jaksch and arguably better than / or as good as Jones.
Having said that, I still think Jones is worth another chance.
As DJC has already said, we need 2 ruckmen against Brisbane.
We NEVER need two ruckman. We are useless with 2 rucks. It's like having 17 men on the ground as they do nothing when they are off the ball. they are useless up forward. What are they going to do, win a few extra taps and do nothing else. Can't believe people think we need two. Clubs often win clearances to losing rucks. I'd much rather lose a few extra taps and let Casboult run around taking marks around the ground as he does when he's on the ball. He's a great get out when coming out of defence. It's his one big strength, which no-one could deny. Surely supporters have seen 2 rucks fail us time and time and time again. Unless a ruckman is a star at landing the ball consistently to their mids, which not many can do, and kill it around the ground, then they are totally overrated commodity. Hitouts to advantages not often go past 20%. Freo at their best, despite Sandilands dominance, lost the clearances most weeks. Rather one ruck and a bloke that can take a marks around the ground. Like, who wouldn't. Not only that Kreuzer is much better around the ground when we don't have a 2nd ruck. After all these years people have not seen that. When did we play our best footy this year, with one ruck. It's when Krezuer played his best footy. Two ruckman and one key forward kills 3 or 4 player's games. Like having only 14-15 players on the ground One ruck two key forwards on the other hand, Kreuzer comes good, Casboult plays alot better and the 2nd key forward contributes as the defence is more spread. Then what happens too Everitt can kick goals too as he gets the 3rd or 4th tall. see how we went when we had two key forwards as compared to one. Structure is everything. Problem is supporters would prefer to win 4-5 extra tap outs even if everything else turns to crap.
I'm thinking Jaksch will be much better forward that Kreuzer and Phillips will ever be, given the latter two are useless in the role, and that might not be saying much. To play forward i'd pick Jaskch any day over Phillips, especially if he's a 2nd key forward where he'd have much more room to move than he got the last time he got a go. He had no hope as a one out key forward. Anyone with a brain would've anticipated that he was going to stuggle under those circumstances. He's been good in the VFL. You be more likely to pick Jones anyway who is way better than our rucks up forward and we know Jones isn't great. Scoreboard tells all this year. Two rucks, one key forward, zero from 12, with an inablilty to kick score. One ruck, two forwards, we were much better and looked liked scoring most times we went into the 50. That's when we won games.
Anyone who think we need two rucks, to me, simply has not been following football. Lets face it, what are they actually going to do, win 5 extra taps? They'll still do nothing else after that. Get someone out that can do something around the ground.