08-08-2016, 10:06 AM
(08-08-2016, 09:01 AM)laj link Wrote:We don''t need both ruckman. Never do. Play like crap when we play both. Fails us time and again when we play both. Results show that. They are both useless when off the ball. We know Kreuzer is a way better player when he's on his own and Casboult improves alot when he gets a run on the ball. That way we can play another key forward. I'd rather loss a few taps outs, which I actually couldn't care about in the slightest, if necessary to improve other aspects of our game out of sight. Still win clearances even if down in the tapout count, as had happened a trillion times. Go back to the structure that won us games. Carlton played BY FAR their best footy this year with just one ruckman.I am familiar with the argument, but playing 1 ruckman is a win big or lose big option. When our ruck plays well, we do well. But when he doesn't, it is a point source error. Our coaching staff take a conservative tone with that. They want options, especially if there are injuries.
Two ruckmen and one key forward is 0-12. 6-2 when we have two key forwards and improved alot further again with just one ruck. Still want to go that way? As crap as we were last year that was one of the few things that did work, and we were very good in the clearances. And Casbooult was the 2nd ruck for 14 of the 16 games he played and averaged 1.5 goals a game on top of that.
Might sound a broken record on this one but why can't people see that.
Then there is our ruckmen. Phillips is a work in progress whose tap work is pretty good. He can take a mark and kick straight, but he doesn't read the game well yet.
We keep playing him because we see potential in him. He will have to muscle up somewhat, as he doesn't do well against guys like Mumford who depend on strength.
Kreuzer is important to the team, but even though he is 200 cm he is now one of the smaller ruckmen and he does NOT have the body make that work as much as we wish. I don't know if he is going to develop the body either, but he does NOT have the leap to handle a NicNat.
Then, he has lost his ability to take marks. If he gets one in the game, that is about it. That hurts us a lot.
But when he is on, he is a huge motivating factor and he can really lift to the occasion. His ability to get clearances and be a part of the play is very useful.
Neither is a great forward, but both could be better if we had more idea HOW to go forward.
Kreuzer can lead quite well, but he can't lead into the mess that is our forwards line very often. When going for pack marks he gets bodied out or he drops the mark. For a guy with his mobility, he appears to lose it when playing forward. If (and it is a Huge IF) we could make space like St Kilda did at the weekend, then Kreuzer could be a serious danger. But as a serial pack marker, he has no idea.
Phillips is similar in that respect. He has a turn of pace and a decent lead, and he can kick a goal from decent distances, but he does not make space well. He needs space to move into. Like Kreuzer, if we could open things out a bit, he could be much more dangerous. However, he is not hugely strong and gets out-bodied. He can take a HUGE screamer, but he needs a run at the ball. He rarely gets it. He doesn't judge the ball as well as some either, which is a surprise considering he judges the ball at the centre bounce very well.
Either of them could be more effective if we had small forwards who could crumb. We just don't get crumbing goals.
Then there are the alternatives; Jones, Jaksch and so on. I am not sure why Jones does not get more of a try. We played reasonably well when he was playing. Unlike last year he is working hard enough to warrant a game, breaking packs and not getting out-marked all that often. He even can kick a snap goal. I wonder why he is on the outer. He got games last year he did not deserve and now cannot get in when he deserves to.
I would also try Jaksch more. He has issues, but he has done enough to get a go.
Any of the above could be more effective if we moved the ball better, especially if we stopped bombing the ball to packs and started lowering the eyes. We move the ball well enough until it comes time to kick it into the forward line. Then we have no idea, turn the ball over, get the kick smothered, etc. Having someone LEAD and provide a decent target would be almost miraculous.
When Casboult does it, he often takes the grab. He looks unbeatable then. But then he takes so long that there are no options when he kicks it. Or we are so slow that he cannot run onto the ball when it goes over the back. That was painfully clear against Adelaide: time and again the ball would go over the back (well, missing the target but we worry about that), where our forwards would fumble the ball and get caught, the bounce would go over our heads, or the forwards would be too slow and get run down. Then, of course, there is missing the target so badly the defenders get it and can run it back with no pressure.
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