Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

[Mantis]

...1 that we're not ruthless enough.

2 MM/selection talk with forked tongue.

3 That there might be some issue with Gibbs that is personal that we don't know about and the club is supporting him through it (to on-field detriment).

Just trade him out for a first rounder and try to sweeten a third rounder to a second if possible. Maybe he was one of those players playing for a contract Judd was talking about. Something is just not working between his ears.