Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

[Thryleon]

There's no point going over it, what's done is done and neither of us will change our mind.
I remember going to a game when Pagan was coach, there were 16,000 of us hardy souls at the MCG to watch us line up Ian Prendergast against Matthew Pavlich, Pavlich kicked 3 in the first 10 minutes and ended up with 9.
That was fun, but I didn't blame Pagan when we lost the match.

Agreed, and the biggest problem about sacking Pagan was the cultural issue of the tail wagging the dog.

Bryce Gibbs learnt that lesson well it seems.

Has repeated it twice and seems to be teaching his mates too.