06-28-2024, 11:48 AM
(06-28-2024, 11:03 AM)laj link Wrote:Biden incoherence masked how bad Trump was. Biden will be the headline in the end when trump should have been Grump. Can't lie, deflect through a debate and say you won even if he looked more forthright and coherent. Actual substance is important in a debate and Biden actually had quite a bit of that still. Just that it was tough to watch, Only part of the actual debate Trump won on was Immigration. In the current global cost of living situation Trump would have been a nightmare. Can't put on tariffs, make an utter mess with your trading partners and not expect an economic mess to come out of it in the current conditions.A lot of people doing it tough in the USA, not a great time to be the incumbent president either with high cost of living, inflation etc and the standard of living declining. Usually that doesnt end well for the Government and Biden appears to be losing support from unlikely places such as younger black voters etc.
Trump was waiting to be smashed and Biden wasn't coherent enough to follow through. A half decent Democrat would have slaughtered Trump.
After today I'd say Biden will be removed as candidate. Poor bugger is losing it mentally. Declined alot in the last 6 months. So different from his superb State of the Union address. Effects of aging hit fast unfortunately and can really suck. Biden, unfortunately, will be lucky to be alive and kicking in 2 years, by the look of him, let alone last a full term. Another candidate will belt Trump on today's effort as they could totally expose him. People are just looking for someone decent to beat him. Bookies have Biden a 3% less chance of winning after today but surprising don't give Trump any more chance of winning. Obviously expecting Biden to stand/be pushed aside.
I cant see the Democrats winning unless the economy improves and Biden can reverse the dreadful immigration mess he created, those two issues are whats keeping Trump in front, its a bit like Hitler when he took over a Germany that was a economic mess, the public were prepared to vote anyone in that would promise to fix the problems and make it better.

