The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread

[LP]

You’re still not addressing the hydrogen conversion costs LP.
I don’t care which tech “wins” but right now ev are ahead by the length of Flemington straight and that isn’t going to change in the next 10-20 years.
Battery’s will become cheaper, they will charge quicker and likely go farther, Hydrogen is a long, long way behind.

The cost per kilogram varies greatly with the source as you know, but regardless of the source it's user pays in the same way petrol or diesel is user pays, there won't be subsidies.

In the case of batteries history says otherwise, because the limits are laws of physics defining the ultimate energy density. This repeated claim of far greater energy densities is a fantasy, more energy basically means bigger heavier batteries, there are no miracles coming for lithium. The everyday experience of users on phones or laptops do not apply, the batteries haven't change much, the electronics has. The better analogy are power tool batteries, more AH means bigger batteries, more copper, more lithium.