The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread

[ElwoodBlues1]

And to top it off, it's relatively wealthy types buying Tesla's, and they are scrapping relatively new cars made from tonnes of recently mined resources that could have run for another decade or two more. Many of the same people update their car every 3 to 5 years, while the break-even figures assume you buy the Tesla and drive it to destruction.

I've even had someone arrogantly argue the aged Teslas will be passed down the economic chain benefitting those who can't initially afford them, but doesn't that mean the new car buyer never breaks even? I suspect unless they end with decades of invalid care they probably pass in deficit!

That's the feel good green for you, perhaps it's pseudogreen!

Most people buying Tesla's will be using the generous Government subsidies and obtaining(not buying) them on novated leases through employers. Not sure on how passing EV's down the food chain will work either as I cant see how the second hand market will work with a lot of those EV's being in need or close to needing new batteries which are not cheap plus who will want to fork out for an EV with old technology with less range than the new variety.
I can also see EV's being a lot cheaper at the bottom end of the market with the Chinese auto companies like BYD, MG, GWM, Chery controlling the market and being able to knock out cheaper cars given they also have investments in the battery technology in many cases ie BYD provide Tesla with batteries and cars at that end of the market of the Chinese variety plummet in resale value.
We may have a lot of worthless EV's and recycling/disposing of batteries etc may become another issue and cost.
In China as soon as the Government subsidies stopped EV's were just dumped on mass like I have said before....
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-...20vehicles.