The rise.... and RISE of Marc Pittonet

[kruddler]

So i posed this question to LP...

Mate, its not a difficult concept.
Go look at afl tables. Pick any game with 2 rucks. See how much TOG they have.
Now go look at another game with 1 ruck, see how much TOG they have....and their backup has.
The difference between the 2 is the extra bench time given to another player/midfielder........as well as another actual midfielder playing.

In response he completely misunderstands (deliberately?) the question and responds with TOG and does nothing but comment on Jack Silvagnis TOG.

Let me spell it out for him - 2 rucks...
R2 Cats - Pitto + TDK - 53% and 72% - AVG 62.5%
R3 Giants - Pitto + TDK TOG - 54% and 64% - AVG 59%
R4 Kangas -Pitto + TDK TOG - 69% and 67% - AVG 68%
Overall 2 ruck average = 63.1% TOG
Time a ruck is on the bench - 36.9%

The game that Jack has played (forward only) in which we have had 2 rucks, and none of the 3 have been subbed out is.....R3+4 - 91 and 76 - Jack forward AVG 83.5%

These are some base line figures of when we have 2 rucks + Jack and how much of the game they play, and obviously, how much they don't and spend on the bench.

Now lets look at a games where its 1 ruck and Jack
R1 - Tigers - TDK+Jack - 79%+85% - Avg 82%
R6 - Saints - Pitto+Jack - 84+86 - Avg 85%
R7 - Eagles - Pitto+Jack - 85+77 - Avg 81%
R8 - Lions - Pitto+Jack - 87+78 - Avg 82.5%
R9 - Dogs - Pitto+Jack - 78+87 - Avg 82.5
R10 - Pies - Pitto+Jack - 81+76 - Avg 78.5%
R13 - Bombers - TDK+Jack - 83+68 - Avg 75.5%
R18 - Power - TDK+Jack - 78+82 - Avg 80%

Overall, thats a pretty consistent....
1 ruck + Jack TOG of 80.9% TOG.
Jack as ruck/forward average = 79.9%
Time a ruck is on the bench - 18.1%


So changes from 2 rucks + Jack, to 1 ruck + Jack
Time a spot is used up on bench by a ruckman is REDUCED by 18.5% Over a standard game of 120 minutes, that is 22.2 Minutes of bench time others can get.
Extra time Jack plays 3.6% 4 minutes less TOG when playing as a part time ruck compared to dedicated forward
The point that gets missed in all of this is this.
2 rucks + Jack = 3, which leaves 21 other players + sub.
1 ruck + Jack = 2, which leaves 22 other players + sub.

So not only are we getting an extra 22 minutes of bench time available to non-rucks, we are getting a whole other player available for rotations as well. All while 'overloading' Jack with an extra 4 minutes of bench time switching between roles.

Which backs up what i've said all along.

Those are from the numbers you posted, when you take out games that players were subbed out and games that didn't include all 3, or 1 and Jack.