08-08-2023, 08:31 AM
(08-08-2023, 08:17 AM)Lods link Wrote:It clouds the picture a bit using percentages on such low numbers....makes it sound like a lot when actually it's not so many.
What I see you saying there though is that there are two aspects, one the ruck, the other the midfield.... but winning the hitout to advantage wouldn't always result in a clearance.
When you spoke to Champion data they gave you an explanation of the hitout to advantage.
I seem to remember that the response was that it goes to a team-mate who has 'time' to dispose of it.
Time is the key word there that needs clarification...because though you may have time it doesn't necessarily mean you win the contest.
On the weekend one of our ruckman won a clear hit out to one of our players who juggled it and then fumbled it....he had 'time' but lacked the execution.
Another instance would be if the player is tackled and caught with the ball, free kick against....again he has time, but not the skill to get it away...how is that adjudicated?
As i said, its an oversimplification. You are right with the examples you show, but i said that in the post. Don't look at an indivdual contest, look at the big picture as it ultimately allows for everything you are saying.
You can get a hitout to advantage and lose the ball and vice versa.
You can shark a hitout and still turn it over.
You can get a clearance and turn it over.
Don't get bogged down in the minutia of each individual contest. It works both ways.
Think about it another way....
Why do we have disposal efficiency? To tell us how good we are disposing of the ball. That doesn't mean every disposal that hits a teammate does so with enough time for him to do anything with it. Or long balls to a 50-50 are actually any good (its deemed effective btw) Individually, there are instances where you can point the finger and so thats BS....and you'd be right.
Overall though, through the course of the match, its usually a fair indication.
The stat i provide is basically rucking efficiency. Individually, its not perfect. But over time its a very good indication.
