(08-08-2023, 07:58 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Its worth worrying about more than hitouts is it not?
The way i think about it is like this. Its an oversimplification, but it holds true over time (even if individual contests don't always hold true)
There is a 50-50 contest Pittonet wins you that contest 20% of the time.
TDK about 9% of the time.
Marshall was halway inbetween at 14%.
57% of contests has no winner.
So from all the non-HTA contests (57%) you have a 50-50 battle from your mids that they must win. Lets say they win 50% of them only. So 28% is won by your midfield.
Overall, your rucks won you 29% of the contests and your mids won you 28% of the contests.
Again, its an oversimplification, but you can see how important getting that head-start is from the ruck.
Overall we have won half from ruck, half from mids.
It clouds the picture a bit using percentages on such low numbers....makes it sound like a lot when actually it's not so many.
What I see you saying there though is that there are two aspects, one the ruck, the other the midfield.... but winning the hitout to advantage wouldn't always result in a clearance.
When you spoke to Champion data they gave you an explanation of the hitout to advantage.
I seem to remember that the response was that it goes to a team-mate who has 'time' to dispose of it.
Time is the key word there that needs clarification...because though you may have time it doesn't necessarily mean you win the contest.
On the weekend one of our ruckman won a clear hit out to one of our players who juggled it and then fumbled it....he had 'time' but lacked the execution.
Another instance would be if the player is tackled and caught with the ball, free kick against....again he has time, but not the skill to get it away...how is that adjudicated?