The rise.... and RISE of Marc Pittonet

[kruddler]

Not at all, a Hard Ball get is a measure of an individual, for a HTA to become a stat it depends on the actions of multiple players.

After the Tap and the next possession comes the assessment of a HTA, so by it's very nature HTA depends on all the players around the stoppage;
- The ruck winning the tap
- Hitting the tap in the right direction and correct distance.
- Any midfielder moving to the right place / direction.
- Any midfielder being in the right place at the right moment.
- Any midfielder being in front at the right moment.
- Any opposition being caught behind.
- Any opposition not guessing the right direction.
- Any opposition not blocking our midfield.

HO are a pure ruck stat, a measure of a ruck winning a contest against a direct opponent, and as a stat it is not dependant on the actions of other players.

By your 'logic' (and i use that term loosely, a hard ball get isn't a genuine stat because the opposition has a say in it as well....you might be up against Jack Watts or some other 'soft' player. Or in this instance a hitout isn't a true hitout because they were getting them against no-name rucks....

HTA is it not the same way a kick to advantage is measured etc
But nobody rates the amount of kicks a player gets higher than their kicks to advantage equivalent - disposal efficiency.

What you are saying is that you'd rather a player get 50 kicks, even if he only hits a target with 5 of them, rather than the same player get 20 kicks and finding a player with 10 of them.

If you arguing that a hitout is more important as it is dependent on the midfield helps you sleep at night, then thats on you.

Ignoring all that nonsense, and playing the game on YOUR (biased) terms, you have never legitimately had an answer to the relative nature of the stat.
That is you fail to address the previous statements about how it depends on the midfield, specifically the '2nd rate' midfield and that explains the TDK difference.
If that rang true, which spoiler alert - its nonsense, then why didn't that same gun midfield turn Young into a superstar ruck by getting him more hitouts to advantage? I'm sure you will try and trot out some other nonsense theory, but Occams razor should tell you that perhaps its nothing more than what i've been saying all along. Pittonet = good. Others = less good.