The rise.... and RISE of Marc Pittonet

[Thryleon]

So TDK, dow, o brien, sps, and pretty much 90% of the team don't improve and the answer is replace them?

Can't have that.  Just because blokes show no signs of being an improver is no reason to turf them all and start with no players we can't develop.  Over the last 12 years it's become apparent to me that players at Carlton develop in spite of us not because of us and more of them turn to poo than not.