04-21-2023, 10:09 PM
(04-21-2023, 08:56 PM)PaulP link Wrote:No doubt one man's circumspect, cautious approach is another man's hysterical overreaction. I get that. You will always have fallout, exceptions to the norm and hard luck stories in situations like this. It's unavoidable. If you want to roll the dice, you take whatever fate has in store for you. You can look at Sweden for example, and their more relaxed approach was certainly not without some measure of success - but as always, both God and the Devil reside in the detail :
https://theconversation.com/did-swedens-...own-188338
You can look at another country that took a similar approach, the US, and it's a very different story.
For some strange reason this conversation gets invariably extrapolated to an extreme I.e. showing data from Sweden who chose not to lock down.
Why?
Complaining about the vaccine mandate and how it was applied to the public vs lockdowns are two different scenarios.
Put the vaccines into people choosing to have it and let the others go without then show me the figures. Thing is I don't think this data can be collected.
We just told them that they should get vaccinated or they can lose their livelihood. This nurse still hasn't been vaccinated but now she's fine to work anyway because no one cares if you have or have been vaccinated anymore, because the vaccine only offers personal protection and now common sense has finally prevailed.
Anecdotally, statistics should have seen rising deaths recently as vaccine immunity wanes and people don't get their boosters. You can bet the farm that hasn't happened else it would have been screamed about from the rooftops so it looks like that was bullcrap too.
The irony is that the economic impact of this is actually causing more issues than the pandemic did now as people are unable to seek health care because its no longer affordable which is going to cause more death and health care pressure because waiting 6 hours in an ED is cheaper than paying to see a GP.
For the last 10 years they've been encouraging people not to waste time lining up in emergency rooms and get a referral from a GP. Thats not happening now.
I'd love to see the change in statistics on that.
"everything you know is wrong"
Paul Hewson
Paul Hewson

