The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread

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Aren’t we talking about the continual burning of fossil fuels to drive the electrolysis that separates the hydrogen and oxygen? Maybe you might be able to tell us whether there will be any real reduction in greenhouse gases produced in that way compared to the continued use of petrol in cars and the like.

Just as solar panels were developed for over three decades using the base load supply at the time which was fossil fuel, hydrogen production will be developed using whatever base load supply is currently available.

Only mindless renewable advocates and the battery industry pump that hydrogen producing base load supply up as being purely sourced from coal or gas. Even a cursory examination exposes the bullcrap that hydrogen is only produced by burning coal. I don't blame them, it's about money, and lots and lots of it, maybe even your superannuation depends on some renewables performing well and continuing to receive subsidies!

At this stage, over the full battery lifecycle, even using the very latest available technologies including big flow batteries, hydrogen is a better option than batteries for storing excess solar PV or Wind generate power.

A genuine problem is that the best performing hydrogen fuel cells are patented, but I suspect eventually the global governments will work around that much as they have with vaccines. But that's not a technical argument, although opponents will paint it as the old world profiteering in an attempt to steer investors away, it again is all about money and the smeller is as bad as the fella!