The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread

[kruddler]

I would agree on the Hilux, we had them at my old employer and they were reliable workhorses but they dont drive that great in terms of steering or performance and we switched to Tritons based on overall purchase/ownership cost and they were a lot nicer drive and didnt have so much the truck handling of the Toyota.
Never driven a Ranger but Ford sell a lot of them......so many in fact they were the 2021 market leader in 4x4's in Aus ahead of Hilux.
Speaking of toys another gripe of mine is the marketing of safety equipment on many new cars, the base models usually come with basic safety kit and you have to upgrade with a safety package($k) to get the full kit of safety equipment. Sales staff will guilt trip you into it by suggesting its important for your family to have the full kit onboard...my usual reply is are you saying the base model is unsafe?

I use the same line when buying electronics and they try and tell me to upgrade the warranty. Are you telling me it won't last x years?

Hilux had the turning circle of the titanic. Triton almost like a small car as the rear axle is so far forward by comparison....that limits what you can carry in the back though.
Ranger is somewhere in the middle - best of both worlds.

Rangers include a lot of the safety stuff in base models. You need to go sr5 or higher to even get close to the equivalent, but I don't think even the top specs have the same features as the ranger. Can't fault them really.