The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread

[kruddler]

Toyota are the market leader in sales and have plenty of fans which allows them the ability to absorb those issues and still sell vehicles based on loyalty to the brand.
I wouldn't be waiting 18 months and would want my toys all onboard and would look at other brands but the reality is none of them have your interests at heart only your wallet.Lexus would be my preferred option but you are paying a premium.
My pet gripe at the moment are these long warranties which are just a marketing trap to force you into  long term dealer servicing..Mitsubishi being the worst con with this new ten year warranty, which forces you to have the car serviced at the dealer or you only get the normal five years if you go independent servicing.

I used to have a hilux, youbused to get bent over at service time.....big time.

I bought a new triton, with the 10 year warranty....and it's capped price servicing, which they show you from the get go. So much cheaper than the hilux services, even through the dealer.
Ended up selling that after 1 year as I'd got a ranger as a work car.
I loved my hilux, but the ranger is every bit as good to drive, if not better, plus comes with all the bells and whistles and new technology that the hilux doesn't have...and for a cheaper price.

I reckon a lot of Toyota fan boys will certainly look elsewhere once they realise their shiny new toy comes without all the fun stuff. If they start driving something else, they might never go back.
I was a Toyota fan boy, but I'd buy a ranger right now if given the choice...and that's even if the Toyota came with all its gadgets installed at time of purchase.
Without? It's not even close.